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Originally posted by Uncle Ernie
Hi Guys,
Just my thoughts...
The 4th down fumble rule still applies here. When A62 recovers A90's fumble, the ball is dead. Since the recovery was behind the spot of the fumble, it is dead at that spot.
I believe we still enforce the RTP from the end of the run (B28), half the distance and an auto 1st down. We still start on the snap since the clock was stopped to award B a first down.
So...
A 1/10 B14. Clock on the snap.
(3-2-5e, 7-2-2b ex 2, 10-2-2c1)
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I posted a subsequent play that may confuse the issue, but the same principles should apply.
Ernie, the second half of 7-2-2b exc 2, says ...If the fumble is recovered BEHIND the spot of the fumble by a Team A player OTHER THAN the Team A fumbler, the ball is dead AT THAT SPOT.
This would lead me to believe that the end of the last run is the spot where A62 recovers A90's fumble.
So here are my questions:
a) Is this correct based on the 4th down fumble rule?
b) Does this conflict with 10-2-2c.2 regarding runs that end behind the NZ?
The issue at hand is determining the basic spot for penalty enforement inolving the 4th down fumble rule, a recovery of the fumble by A (not the fumbler) behind the NZ and behind the spot of the fumble.
I've also referenced 2-30-4a (Running play) and 2-25-10b (Basic spot; running plays behind the NZ)
Maybe I'm overly complicating this and should just use the previous spot, but it is not yet clear to me that this is correct by rule.
HELP! (for anyone else posting, please use my 2nd post for reference purposes)