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Originally posted by WestMichBlue
"To remember how to rule, an umpire can think of the reversal of direction when the batter turns back toward the field as the "stop" allowed and handle it from there."
Agreed - that is how I have always understood this rule. HOWEVER, rules B & C allow a stop after the reversal of direction - under your interp that would be the second stop - thus illegal and the B-R called out just for stopping.
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Like a POE, it is an easy reference, not something cut into granite.
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"were put into place to avoid the possible "stand-off" BS as there is no guidance on speed, a runner returning to 1B could take minutes to complete."
Actually, the ASA POE suggests that a runner can stop as many times as she wants on her way back to 1B.[quote]
No, it says as many times a "needed". i.e., put on a jacket, remove a shin guard, put on runner gloves, etc. It also notes that by doing so they cannot attempt to go to 2B which means the players and umpires can proceed to prepare to continue play without the need to steadily concentrate on this runner.
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"If the umpire doesn't know the rule, they either don't attend clinics or take the time to learn the rules, OR their UIC has failed to instruct them properly"
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"Nothing new or exciting here (rule b), but it does not relate to running "through" 1B, but continuing to run (rounding) the bases."
I think that you proved my point, Mike, about lack of knowledge of these rules. Rule B does indeed relate to "running through the base towards right field." Rule A is for rounding 1B towards 2B. Rule A is typical LBR - allowed one stop, decide, then proceed non-stop to 2B or back to 1B. (I deliberately did not bring rule A into my discussion.)
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Then why reference it here? I'm responding to your post, not what is in the book.
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Rules B thru E are for running through the base, and only rule B is a LB type of rule. With all due respect to your comments, I still think that C-D-E are garbage. Remove them from the book and nothing would change (assuming that B was modified to read "turn left or right, then stop, then go to 2B or back to 1B non-stop."
WMB
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If you think they are garbage, that's fine, you're allowed to have your opinion. But I disagree that all would be fine just with a l/r modification to B. For years umpires have been fighting the turn left/right myth. Read and apply the rules as written and all will be fine in the world. Decide to make editorial decisions and redefine the rule as you see fit and you are doing the teams a disservice. And may very well get caught in one of these situations as you know how much "knowledgeable" coaches love to screw with the rules and then the umpire if they think they can get by on one.
Just my opinion,