Mon Feb 09, 2004, 02:36pm
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Originally posted by Smitty
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by OverAndBack
On-the-court questions[*]On three seconds - this weekend, Team A would come down and set up on offense, with their center right at the free throw line, with his back to the basket and his heels across the free throw line in the paint. He would camp there and hardly move - is this three seconds? I asked my partner (very experienced) who said the three-second area for purposes of that rule doesn't start until farther down in the key. I'm confused about that one, so any help there would be appreciated.
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No, don't call this. In effect your partner's right.
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Technically the scenario he presented does indeed qualify for the 3-second violation if any part of the kid's foot is over the paint for more than 3 seconds (9-7). There is no magic line in the paint where you call this or don't call it. The clarification for where the foot needs to be and where the boundaries are is very clear in the rule book. It's purely an advantage/disadvantage thing, unless you always call it by the book.
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Smitty
In effect, you have said the same thing as Dan. If you are talking heels over the FT line, it doesn't create the huge advantage that the rule is trying to prevent. Being 14.9 feet from the basket is not much of an advantage. Trying to stay within 3 feet in the low block is a huge advantage. Unless you can point out where this is creating a hugely unfair situation, this is one you ignore.
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No, I wasn't saying the same thing as Dan. I wanted to be sure that the rookie who was asking the question understood that the scenario he posted was indeed grounds for a 3-second call, if he deemed it so. I might call a 3-second call that far out - the rule specifically states that this area of the court is where the count should be administered. If being that far out is not ever an advantage, then the rule should change. Neither you nor I get to change the rules to suit us. If they someday paint the botton half of the free throw lane a different color and call that the 3-second area, that's how I'll call it. Until then, if a kid is standing in the paint just inside the free throw line for 5 seconds, then he receives a pass, I might call that right then and there if I think it's the right thing to do based on the situation. There's nothing you can point to to tell me I'm wrong. [/B]
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So...if we agree it's advantage/disadvantage on this call, can you tell me what advantage a player has gained by standing with his back to the basket and his heels on the FT line? And notice he didn't say anything about a pass, or a rebound, he simply said the kid is standing there with his back to the basket and was wondering if he should call 3 seconds.
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