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Old Sun Feb 01, 2004, 01:15am
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is offline
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Re: The throw goes with the clock

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Originally posted by David B
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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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Originally posted by cmathews
MTD, well I still don't like the feel of moving the ball up the court, there is no rule or case play to support it, I also agree there is no rule or case play that directly prohibits it either. To me if we put the time back to the original we just do the whole thing over. I don't think that you can definitively say that that is wrong either, because there is no specific case or rule to cite one way or the other...I will give you this, you are consistent in your moving the ball up the court LOL....but as we all know half of this game is 90% mental....

You still have not answered my question: Why would you negate A1's throw-in? Tell me how the clock starting too soon negates Team A's throw-in?
I would negate the throw-in just as in the play during the game you negated the time on the clock.

If you go with the throw in and let that happen, then you might as well go with the horn sounding and end the game.

Basically you have allowed action to take place during a dead ball. Why let one action (the throw in) happen, but not let the other action (the clock starting) happen.

Thanks
David

David, you need to read NFHS R6-S7, which defines when a live ball becomes dead and NFHS R5-S9-A4, which defines when the clock shall start. A1's throw-in cannot be negated because of the Timer's mistake. It is not a question of letting one action (the throw-in) happen, but not letting the other action (the clock starting) happen, because by rule the clock cannot start until the throw-in touches a player or is touched by a player on the court. A1's throw-in did happen and the clock was not supposed to start until the A2 caught the throw-in. An official cannot attempt to make both teams happy; he must do what is correct by rule.
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