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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I would argue that everyone would have a point at which, if the officials did not call the game, they would call it themselves or pull their team from the floor. It might result in a forfeit at the time, and depending on what caused it, that forfeit could be overridden. I would also say that I have never run into any of these scenarios nor would I expect to run into them. But things can happen that the rules do not anticipate or account for. I am also not sure what precisely is alleged to have occurred in the Texas case, or whether what occurred would be sufficient reason to end the game. And other authorities will have to decide that.
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I will only speak for my state. But official have been told that when we make decisions about ejections and forefeitures, those decisions are final. Our state does not recognize protests or revisit issues when an official makes a decision. That decision might be reviewed if the official did something not sactioned, but all the state will do is suspend or pull the license of an official for misconduct.
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
But take the NC rule where the player flipped off the crowd and received an automatic ejection. If that is the standard, it logically extends to officials. It's just that the writers of the rules don't write that in because they don't anticipate that occurring. But if it is enough to disqualify one participant, it should be enough for any participant, IMO.
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What NC does or what Texas does, it does not affect what the rest of the country might do. It is a great conversation piece, but it is not the standard in which all jurisdictions follow.
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Refs should meet at least as high a standard as players and coaches, if not higher. Players and coaches can leave the game, but the ref must stay. That means that when all else is going to hell around them, they must keep their heads. Sorry, but that's what y'all signed up for. And you can get rid of all the idiots that don't keep their heads.
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No, that is not what we signed up for. We signed up to be the ultimate authority on the court. We signed up to be the final word. Which we go thru more background checks than most coaches I know do. And if we violate those rules or guidelines, we might have to give up our license. But that does not mean we leave the game. We are not coaches, our conduct is not subject to a higher authority while that game is going on. It might be later and yes this official's conduct will be examined later and scrutinized unlike any coach that will be ejected from a game. A coach pops off and curses out the fans, if his school wants to keep him he can come back after a suspension.
Coach what you have not addressed is to what extent are you going to allow this to happen. You cannot have administrators with a rooting interest decide when the official goes or not. If you do, then you can do it for much less than what this official was removed for. No different than a lawyer cannot just remove a judge and not go thru a procedure. The procedure (which was stated in the story) was not followed. If you want to remove the official from having a license, no problem here. But you cannot remove me just because you do not like something they do. Sorry, you cannot give one rule that backs that up. Coaches, players and fans are addressed on how their conduct can remove them from the game. There is no such procedure unless you have a state rule that we are not aware of.
Peace