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I don't know about the history of the men's game, but I agree that if you see what the POE describes wrt timing of the hands separating and the location of the pivot foot, you have a crow hop.
My question (since the POE doesn't explicitly say this), is this the only way a crow hop can happen?
I agree that a leap followed by a second push off is merely a leap (since that illegal act happened first), but I wouldn't quibble with an umpire who called the second push for a crow hop call (maybe he didn't think the leap was above the level plane of the surrounding ground).
In the situation of the small (legal) leap followed by a replant and second push - haven't the hands already separated before the second push? Wasn't the pivot foot legally on the plate at the time of the separation of the hands?
I don't know - it's after midnight, outside temp is -5 with a -20 or so wind chill, and I'm trying to visualize pitching mechanics. WMB - did you used to pitch fastpitch?
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