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Originally posted by williebfree
JRutledge...
I sincerely hope that none of us have to deal with a coach who is this stubborn, but I want to be prepared. I may be a bit anal here, but I want to clarify this scenerio for myself and others.
Again, you have provided some reasonable information about game management, but you have not referenced any rules that support the procedure you initially indicated that you would use in your original response.
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If you need a rule to justify everything you do, then that is your first mistake. I am giving you a way to handle a situation without throwing kids out and having to justify something on black and white side of the rules, this will not work for you.
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Originally posted by williebfree
I have noticed, in this latest response, that you have backed off from assessing the flagrant AFTER the coach refused to sub for his player, but you indicate that you will now strictly enforce rules for the remainder of the game and be on high alert for potential fights.
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I did not back off of anything. I said that this is what I would do and if the coach does not accomidate, then I have some options for that coach. I am not talking about enforcing rules just for a fight, but then any contact that I might have passed on, gets called. Plain and simple.
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Originally posted by williebfree
Believe it or not, I agree that approaching the coaches and "requesting" them to remove the involved players is good game management. What I disagree with is the decision to issue a flagrant Tech AFTER the coach doesn't heed the warning.
Just curious, can you cite a rule I can use to justify demanding the coach remove his player from the game in this situation (without it being a Flagrant foul or a 2nd T)?
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Again, if you need a citation to justify everything you do on the court, then you will have more problems in my opinion. Not because using the rules is wrong, but there are many ways to justify handling situations without any reference to a single rule. There are situations about handling coaches and what to say or not to say on this board right now. If the coach is stupid enough to not get the hint or take the advice, then he has put the ball in the court of my partners and I to call the game. If he plays ball, then we act like nothing happen. No different if I or my partners have warned a coach about his behavior toward us. After being warned and not taking the hint, that next time he steps out the box, you get him. No Mr. Nice Guy. No giving more rope, like we did earlier, just get him. Because I know that many official do their best to try not call Ts and try to talk players and coaches out of situations. If they do not want to listen or they want to complain, then I have a whistle that will solve all those problems.
Peace