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Originally posted by Snaqwells
To me, "clearing" is just what the rule is designed to prevent. If a coach is teaching that, he's at fault when I call it. If a player extends the elbows to protect the ball, fine. But if he swings them (any discernable lateral movement other than a full-body pivot). I suppose I'm looking to see if he is swiveling his hips rather than pivoting on his pivot foot axis. Or, if the arms move and the rest of the body does not. If he pivots, and the elbows move with the rest of his body, no violation.
I'm still debating on the hip swivel, however.
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Hip swivel or shoulder swivel deserves the violation, this is the epitome of throwing an elbow and if contact is made with a defender, call a foul commensurate with the contact.
What do you have in the case of a full body pivot with contact resulting on an opponent and how would you square your decision with ...
Rules Chapter 9 SECTION 13 EXCESSIVE SWINGING OF ARM(S)/ELBOW(S)???
ART. 1 . . . A player shall not excessively swing his/her arms(s) or elbow(s), even without contacting an opponent.
ART. 2 . . . A player may extend arm(s) or elbow(s) to hold the ball under the chin or against the body.
ART. 3 . . . Action of arm(s) and elbow(s) resulting from total body movements as in pivoting or movement of the ball incidental to feinting with it, releasing it, or moving it to prevent a held ball or loss of control shall not be considered excessive.
We see this call quite frequently as we actively coach our players to pivot in accordance with the rule cited above especially Art 3 It seems many officials are inclined to call violation, or even a COMMON FOUL, when they see any elbow movement. As you will recall, PC is acceptable as is Flagrant or even a T, but it can never be a common foul based on my reading. With the POE as of last year they reflexively feel they must call something even in cases where the ballhandler is exerting total body movement.
NB COACH TALKING!!!!
Thanks for your insights
[Edited by justacoach on Jan 11th, 2004 at 07:09 PM]