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Originally posted by Michael Taylor
Warren:
Isn't you that is getting two bites from the apple?
You are saying the runner stays because of the balk. If the BR advances forcing the runner ahead then the balk is ignorred.8.05 penalty
The only way your arguement works is if it was earlier in the count.
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Yes, I believe the offense is entitled to "
two bites from the apple" because the defense committed two errors - a balk and a base on balls.
Take the balk out of the equation:
Under 6.07(b.2) when the appeal is upheld R1 should be returned to 1st base - George's ruling.
Take the batting out of turn out of the equation:
Under 8.05 Penalty, all runners advanced on the play and R1 remains at 2nd base.
Put them together and Gee wants BOTH the balk ignored AND R1 returned even though the defense committed 2 errors to the offense's 1! That's an advantage not intended under the rules IMHO. See my reply to greymule for the logic.
Hope this helps
Cheers.