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Hayes, are you telling me Carl has checked this out and J/R is right that any advantageous 4th out obtained (such as from a force or BR failing to reach first) and not just 4th outs obtained on appeals are recognized in order to cancel out runs ????
That was position I had taken on McGriff's and backed off after some of the factors brought out by other posters. Right now I feel very certain that I don't have a clue.
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