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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I didn't initially reply cause mick's little poem leaves much to the imagination. Was this a bad toss and therefore no toss? If so, re-set the clock.
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Got a rule, AR, case play or memo on this?
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Originally posted by garote
Whether or not the clock was started correctly...reset the clock and start over because its the right thing to do.
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Got a rule, AR, case play or memo on this?
You guys could be right but I've never seen one.
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The clock shouldn't start until the jump ball is legally touched.
If the R doesn't throw the ball up at in a plane at right angles to the sidelines and dso the ball will drop between the jumpers, it's not a jump ball, so the ball isn't legally touched.
And, yes, I'm reaching to find rules that support what I think is the "right" thing to do here.
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Hmmm....what I got loosely says the jump starts when it leaves the officials hand & ends when it's touched; the game clock starts when the jump ball is
legally touched; the toss shall be repeated when a bad toss is made.
As you say the only thing you have to hang your hat on (IMO) is what constitutes
legally touched. I tend to think it means a touch that does not otherwise violate the jump ball provisions, and might also mean the ball is to be touched inbounds.
I can't for the life of me see how it means the ref didn't screw up the toss. And I surely don't see where it says the bad toss requires us to put expired time back on (and maybe even ignore fouls except for flagrant or intentional fouls blah blah blah...?). I mean, words to this effect are there for other times we screw it up, why not this time?