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Originally posted by Camron Rust
An easy way to determine this is to consider who committed the violation. When the ball goes OOB untouched, it is a violation by the thrower, thus the spot is the spot of the original throw-in.
Now, consider if the A2 touches/catches the ball while a foot is OOB....a violation. Who is this on? It must be on A2 and B gets the ball at that spot.
Why? What if you change A2 to B2 in all cases. Now, if you had concluded that it was a violation on the thrower to have the ball first touched OOB by a player, the violation would still be on A1 and B would get the ball. To get the ball, all B has to do is have a foot OOB (or otherwise have OOB status) and touch the ball before anyone else. For example, as A1 releases the ball, B1, who is guarding the throw-in, steps on the line and reaches to touch the ball. Tweet. Violation on the thrower...B's ball. Of course this is not the case.
This counter example should clearly show why the violation would not be on the thrower.
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Camron - where have you been? Hey - remember the post we had just like this where we argued about whether the clock should be reset if it started when A2 touched the ball after an inbound on a spot throwin? If I recall, you said that the administering official should drop his arm as soon as A2 touches the ball and then the nearest official should blow his whistle as soon as he realizes A2 is OOB, so it is natural for the clock operator to start, then immediately stop the clock, so under NF rules, you could have the time lag. After chewing on it for a while, I agreed you were right. Any other opinions out there?