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Old Sat Nov 01, 2003, 07:59pm
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Originally posted by Larks

And..a conversation came up about if there is a collision or if a player goes down...there must be a foul.

What ever happend to advantage / disadvantage? I understand they want the game called tight but I'd have a hard time penalizing legal defense / bailing a player out.

Old guys....any thoughts?

Do you as an official consider the following to be a truism...

If a player goes down, there must be a foul? I suppose this question could apply to NF or NCAA guys.

Larks
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I'm not sure I qualify as old either, but here are my thoughts...first: read the NCAA Manual for Women's crew of three, page 5...it talks about a philosophy of officiating, and points out that one of the keys to the game (and one of the major problems I see in Men's ball) is freedom of movement - both for offense and defense...collisions and players hitting the floor are indications that freedom of movement is not taking place and we need to address that...

Also, and I know this is a generalization but...in Men's ball, if there is a collision and several players end up on the floor, there might be some woofing and chest-thumping right then, but then it is usually forgotten...in Women's ball, nothing is forgotten or forgiven...so that collision 5 min. into the game with no whistle can come back to haunt you with 2 min. to go in the game when some player decides to retaliate...it's the 5 min later principle - in other words, if I do/don't make this call, what effect will that have on the game 5 min. down the road?

In the situation you mentioned, when A1 steps on B1's foot, we have to decide (instantly) whether to call travelling on A1 or block on B1...best bet will usually be the block (as far as supervisors go)...that of course depends on A1 losing control when they go down...
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