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Old Tue Oct 14, 2003, 02:11pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally posted by sportsannouncing
Funny you say this. You know, I've heard a lot of people say they can announce. And it's true, anyone can announce. Just like anyone can officiate. But it takes a certain person to do it WELL, to do it RIGHT.
That is the point. It is easy to sit in the stands and say to officials what they should do, and you admittedly have not been in the fire and accomplished what many of us have to even question and be taken seriously. Doing a rec. game is not at all like doing a HS or college game with hundreds or thousands of fans on your back about every thing you do or not do.


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Originally posted by sportsannouncing

I'm not saying I'm the best official out there, far from it. What I am saying and really asking, is why are the same officials making the same bad calls every year? Then complaining they don't get different results. It's frustrating to hear "If I call everything, then everyone would've fouled out by the end of the first half," and have the referee believe it.
Well it shows the lack of your knowledge of the game. Most fans and commentators do not even know what a foul or penalty is, but then they want to Monday Morning Quarterback (sorry it is football season for me) and tell us what we should do. Better yet, you have folks like yourself that have never been in the fire to even understand what a bad call or a good call is. What you have officiated or officiate is not of the level that these officials that you want to be critical of. One of the reasons you are getting hammered by the brass here.

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Originally posted by sportsannouncing

"If you call the first foul, the resulting fouls wont occur," Dick Vitale.
Well I am a Dick Vitale fan on his enthusiam about the game and his knowledge about players and coaches. I even give him some credit for his X and O comments. But Vitale, like many other commentators do not have a clue what a foul is. Better yet, if they allowed us to look at the game from the same place, then that would be the norm. But officials are in the much better position and we do not call the game from a fixed position. We actually are a few feet from most calls and understand the rules. Considering I hear things from commentators like "moving screens" and "his feet were not set the call should have been a block." Neither of these comments are based on any rule, but I hear them every game at least once when the "all knowing announcers" educate the public about rules that do not even exsist.


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Originally posted by sportsannouncing
But this is part of the problem that's going on and until it's realized, it's going to continue. It is easily possible to go through a season without having any fights in high school games. When there was a fight at a game in Northern Virginia, the first question among fans wasn't "Who started it", it was "Who were the officials". When we found out, we understood why it happened.
Well fortunately I have never had a basketball game that had a fight (at least a big one). But if you are that ignorant to think that fights happen based on what fouls are called and not called, you have a lot to learn about sports. Sometimes a rivalry has more to do with the game, but the fact that players and coaches know each other personally and do not like each other off that court or out of that arena. If you think a fight happens just because of a foul that does not take place, you need to offficiate some more. I have heard of fights that had racial overtones, cultural overtones and sometimes dating overtones. I have known fights that started because players were sleeping with the same girl. The officials might not even know of that history, but just like an uneducated fan, you make everything about the officials. I think the coaches and players help set a tone. Afterall this is just a game and if you cannot put that in perspective, then no wonder we have the problems we have.


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I am a big proponent of high school and women's basketball and want to see it succeed. The problem is, some officials (and I don't even know if they are on the board) don't take those games seriously and let it get out of hand. It's not good for anyone when that happens.
Did it ever occur to you the players and coaches let the game get out of hand. If I call 40 fouls in a half on that does not necessarily change the tone if the players and coaches do not adjust. I have been in the double bonus for both teams and the coaches complain we called too many fouls. So we are damned if we do, damned if we don't.

Again stick to what you know and I will stick to what I know. I personally have no desire to be an announcer. Maybe because it is clear that I would not continue to churn the ignorance of the game that individuals like yourself do on a regular basis. But then again, you officiate under the big lights doing the state recognized rec. league. I am sure your fellow officials are knocking down the doors to get those games.

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