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Originally posted by jhughe90
I was just going through the Coach asks catcher thread and saw this statement -The problem here was that the PU was very confrontational and everybody in the ball park heard him "admonish" the coach. I don't think that this is the way to handle it.- which goes along the lines on why I showed up here today.
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Well, you know, sometimes what others hear for the 1st time isn't the 1st words of an on-going banter. Depending on the situation, there just may be times where it is necessary to publicly dress-down a coach. I don't believe it is always the way to handle a situation, but unless involved it's hard to pass absolute judgment on this one.
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Had an incident the other night where the umpire (through 1 1/2 good solid games with friendly chatter) in my opinion snapped and confronted the left fielder inappropriately.
I won't debate the call at 3rd except to say that a majority of the field was heading to the dugout before the call was realized.
General disagreement with calls in leagues in our area is normal and regular as long as long as it isn't vulgar and is dropped. Many take a lot more abuse than that and let it go.
The comment in this case was "that's awful", and barely audible at the plate. The umpire proceeded to walk into the field to the SS area and confront the LF, literally daring him with a "How awful was it?" to say anything else and be ejected. More belittling followed..."It's your mouth that's awful". I felt it was grossly uncalled for and took most of the enjoyment out of the rest of the game.
Thoughts? I've been stewing on it for 48 hours now. I realize that are likely no rules that cover such situations, but umpiring guidelines would certainly not recommend that.
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Barely audible at the plate from the outfield may have been quite audible to many others, but then again, we all know how great the view is from the outfield compared to 10-20' from the play
I agree, this was not the way to handle it. I had the same thing happen to me last June in Plant City. Player complained about the PU all the way from right field. I'm BU and am already bored with his diatribe. Still running at the mouth after the next play, I decided I've heard enough, but I didn't say a word to the player. I called the manager out of the dugout. I told him that I had heard enough and the options were to quiet the player or replace him. Manager thanked me and told the player to "shut up" or sit down. Didn't hear a word from that player the remainder of the game.
I think that umpires tend to not want to hear outfielders whine about plays since they are so remote compared to infielders.
I don't approve of the manner the umpire handled the situation, but we really don't know what else that umpire had been hearing either. That's not excusing it, just thinking what could have caused it.