[David B]

to the idea that the play can help determine the call.

I see it all the time in MLB.

Now, I think the problem comes with guys who only umpire t-ball or LL or something of that effect.

The pace of play is much much slower than with the kids who shave and they have lots of time to make a judgement on the play.

Maybe that is the group that is trying to say there might be a tie in baseball.

I know when I first started I used to think the same thing, but in the 25 years since I've learned a whole lot about the "game of baseall" and there is a lot of merit to the idea that a great play deserves the call if its a coin toss.

I know in the last five years i have prescribed more and more to that theory and it has made umpiring much more pleasant.

As a matter of fact its been a long time since I've had a coach even question a call on a close play even if say its a steal and the ball obviously beats the runner and he might miss the tag etc., If the throw beats the runner by five steps no one if going to complain he missed the tag.

Now in LL maybe its different because so many times its obvious that there was no tag. But since I only call guys that shave now I don't have to worry about that.

Everyone knows he was out and that's the call.

No complaints, batter up.

Dave quoted Carl above and I'm pretty sure if he and i were makeing the call, we would both call it the same way.

I've said it before and i still believe that its very hard to miss a call at 1B if you're in position and paying attention.

thanks
David