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Originally Posted by JRutledge
This video much of the "contact" was not seen.
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https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...J4vivTJh4D.mp4
I spotted three separate extended arm bar contacts (including switching arms) by Red #4 against ball handler White #0 over a period of about five seconds. Spotted the contact first time viewing the video. First contact, with Red #4's left arm, was the strongest and longest (wasn't short-lived) contact of the three, and easy to spot. Upon further review, the second contact, this one also by Red #4's left arm, against White's 0's left shoulder and upper arm, was very short in duration, but it was there. The third and last last contact, this one by Red #4's right arm, near the elbow, was the least clear of the three, so I could be persuaded that there was no actual contact there at all.
That's how I broke down this video in regard to NFHS philosophy (but not necessarily in regard to any different local philosophy), with no discussion regarding rhythm, speed, balance, quickness, advantage, or disadvantage.
JRutledge saw no contact. No contact, or not seeing any contact, means no foul, by everybody's philosophy. Can't argue with that.
Of course, JRutledge could also argue that the last two contacts didn't occur, and that the first contact was a nothing more than a legal hot stove touch, thus no foul.
I'm not sure if the hot stove touch exception applies to an extended arm bar? That could be up for discussion.
We have to agree to disagree.