[JRutledge]

Billy,

Sometimes you make this too complicated. If there is a foul before the horn, put some time back on the clock. That is it. You know the foul was before the horn. If you are watching the clock anyway, you can see how much time is on the clock too. Not that difficult, just put time on the clock even if it is .2, and shoot like normal. The way most gyms are configured too, usually the clock is somewhere in the view of both ends. But if you do not have that, still get together and put some time on the clock.

Also, the use of the word discernible was not used to mirror specific rulebook language. The term was used to suggest that if you can determine the foul was before the clock ran out, then put time on the clock. Not every commentary has to use perfect rules-language if we are talking about a way to figure out one thing happening over another thing. You likely know if one happened first.

Peace