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Originally posted by nine01c
Warren: Please clarify: If the situation was the same except that R1 is the one tagged out (after overstepping 2B), or R2 is the one tagged out (after overstepping 3B),
would the ruling be the same? Is there a different ruling if it is the BR called out after missing 1B (that he is entitled to after the base on balls)? This is different than a batted ball.
If the ruling is the same for any runner, then 7.04(b) clearly states that the run scores (even if R3 hasn't reached home plate yet). It gives the play above with R1 being the tagged-out runner at 2B, and justifies WHY the run scores.
Are you saying that the rule is different for the BR? Or, are you saying that OBR is wrong in it's explanation of this play?
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Niether.
We're saying that your interpretation of what you are reading is wrong.
Play: 2 outs, bases loaded, walk.
If any runner *touches* the next base and advances beyond it and is put out, the run scores. That's the play in the book.
If a runner advances past a base, he's assumed to have touched it, unless and until an appeal is made.
So, if R2 touches third and advances past it, the run scores.
If R2 misses third and advances past it and is tagged out, the run scores. This is (for now) the same play.
If the defense appeals the miss, it's now a force out, and no run scores.
The same is true of BR at first (with the technical exception of not being "forced").