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Old Mon Aug 20, 2018, 01:34pm
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Originally Posted by ilyazhito View Post
I agree with your logic about 1 minute being too early unless you are in a college game or other game when the clock stops after scores (1 minute Q1/2/3, 2 minutes Q4/OT for pro-am under NBA rules, 2 minutes Q4/OT FIBA rules). I'll ask my local groups about alternate practices, but until I find out about that, I'll do what the book requires.
OK, then why did you ask? You asked why those of us did something different and we told you. BTW, we have been telling you to ask people in your local area about these issues all along. I know based on your posts, many of us have worked much longer than you. So what we do in a college game or high school game is not something many of us worry about that much.

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The material published by Referee is good, but it does not include a "Common Alternative Practices" or similar section. If I was publishing books like that, I'd survey officials, through a thread such as this or other means, and include other, off-book practices in an appendix (there would be a description of the officially approved, by-the-book procedure, and a reference to the appropriate part of the CAP section). This is also why I started this thread, to see what alternative practices exist, and if there differences between these practices at the high school, college, NBA, or FIBA levels (last two are less likely, because NBA and FIBA officials go through rigorous training when hired).
But then you tell us what should be done based on your very limited experience. I would hope if you wrote a book on a topic, you did a bit more than survey some officials. I would hope you would have worked with hundreds of officials, been in several situations and then used that for the basis of your experience to share that experience. Many things are not listed in a book.

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Originally Posted by ilyazhito View Post
The reason why I mentioned the 1 finger for 1 minute and point at the shot clock at 10 second signals as communication signals is because I believe that is their purpose: to make oneself aware and inform the other officials. If there is another, hidden, purpose, let me know. I can't read between the lines because I don't have X-ray vision.
Did you work a Men's college game yet? If you have not, then you probably would not know how little it was used or when it was used. Yes, it was a communication tool, but often used at certain times, not every time the clock is at 10 seconds, just like the 1 minute mark is not used for a signal. It is not like these things many of are telling you or that I am telling you has not been well thought out. Often many things are done for a very specific reason.

No one here in the end really cares what you do, but it often matters if you are making a mountain out of a molehill about things that are not going to be something anyone of significant cares about. I have never lost a single game because of these minor things were done or not done to the letter.

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