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The "other information" can be the table officials. 2-13 or so. If we can't hear horn "consult table officials and if they ...agree..."
If I'm allowed to talk to them to get information why would I be prevented from using my own count in my head? I think it's pretty clear a visible count isnt required.
Now, as a practical matter...if it happens, whatever time you take off needs to be correct. The tape will show it. If you've taken the right amount of time off you're good. Counting in your head or visibly. If you're wrong on the amount of time/your count...whether your arm is moving or not isn't going to save you.
I personally think that if you know how much time should have come off the clock(not guessing) then take it off. Saying I can't use my own count in my head because it wasn't visible just throws it on the table/timer.., he or she screwed it up in the first place....certainly didn't have a visible count...
Last edited by BigCat; Wed Nov 01, 2017 at 02:06pm.
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