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					Originally Posted by  teebob21
					 
				 
				Agreed. Even if F1 isn't pumping fake throws, if that ball is held in a throwing position, the LBR isn't on. 
			
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 Unless something has changed recently, raising the arm to a throwing position is considered a play by the pitcher for the purpose of the LBR.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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