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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
You're forgetful too. A lot of people have agreed with me on the fact that these were always fouls but just not being called correctly. Again, that was the whole point of the rule change...not to make something a foul that wasn't but to get it through some people's thick heads that they were not enforcing existing rules correctly. The NFHS and NCAA even said as much. Every time you bring that up, you just prove the NCAA/NFHS right in that some people (you) were just not understanding it. And being wrong with others doesn't make you right.
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I do not care what other people agree with you about. I was not asking for your approval or their approval to have an opinion. If they agree with you, nice. But I can tell you that there were not people calling it that way. I have been doing this for over 20 years and been to many camps outside of my state and there was no such suggestion by any official that is outside of my area or works D1 basketball. Heck there were all kinds of complaining about how things were called if you simply called a hand-checking foul years ago. I actually went to John Adam's camp before he became the NCAA Supervisor and just simple calls that now fall under 10-1-4 were often seen very differently. I even worked a game at John Adam's camp where the clinician told us to call more hand-checking calls in a half me and my partners were working called more and John who was not watching our game started watching. He was surprised there were more fouls and wondered why until his clinician told him, "I told them to call more of those fouls." John said, "Oh, OK" and we did not have it mentioned. But it was something we had to be asked to do because of the specifics of the game, not because it was a specific rule.
Heck the way post play was officiated was also something not called the way it is now. If you did, you were calling "game interrupters." But again back to what I said, you are not seeing the videos. Every NCAA video spends the first couple of minutes talking about 10-1-4. That was not the case before not matter what you say.
I am also not trying to be "right." I do not care about who is right or wrong. I do not have these conversations to prove anything, but other than to have a discussion. Even the way I create the videos are to spark discussions that are often not about the rules, but about the philosophy of how you call the game. Often what is expected and what is called are not the same thing. But that is why "rulebook officials" like you are not people I like working with. You want to prove you know the rule, but do not know how the rules are to be applied or expected to be applied. And the last time I checked, I did not see you on any of these games working either.
Peace