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Old Wed May 02, 2007, 09:48pm
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What rule book might this be from, if any?

I was chatting with one of the rec league coaches before a game today, and he brought up a scenario from Monday's game (not mine) that I'd never heard of. Bases were loaded in a co-ed slow-pitch ASA game. The pitcher delivered a pitch to a male batter, and, for whatever reason, the umpire declared the pitch illegal. The PU then awarded all runners one base, and a ball on the batter (this was not Ball 4). The defensive coach (and the offensive coach, too!) both asked, "uhhh... why?" The PU explained that this was similar to a balk, and that this only applied to male batters.

I only call ASA now, and I told the coach that there is no such rule in co-ed slow-pitch in ASA. Obviously, the umpire was mistaken. However, has anyone ever heard of such a rule? The PU also calls NSA, high school fast-pitch and, I believe, NCAA softball, so maybe he was simply confused.

And people wonder why I only want to call one rule book.
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 01:04am
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"However, has anyone ever heard of such a rule?"

Yes. It is in your 2007 rule book on page 88 6-(1-8) Effect C. It is a fast pitch rule.

Paul
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 07:54am
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"However, has anyone ever heard of such a rule?"

Yes. It is in your 2007 rule book on page 88 6-(1-8) Effect C. It is a fast pitch rule.

Paul
True, but I think that this umpire was thinking it was a slow-pitch rule, as he specifically spoke about it only affecting male batters in co-ed play. It wouldn't surprise me if he were just making stuff up...
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Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 08:48am
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True, but I think that this umpire was thinking it was a slow-pitch rule, as he specifically spoke about it only affecting male batters in co-ed play. It wouldn't surprise me if he were just making stuff up...
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 08:58am
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No worries, man. I figure it's one of two scenarios: he either got confused and used a rule from another book, or he just made it all up to speed the game along. It was a co-ed C league, notorious for dragging on. And on. And on. Frankly, I'm not a fan of this ump anyway, as his attitude is p!$$ poor, so it wouldn't surprise me if he made it up to speed things along.
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 02:18pm
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If it's not a rule for that league, it was a made-up by the ump.

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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 03:28pm
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If it's not a rule for that league, it was a made-up by the ump.

Bob
Figures. I honestly can't believe that anyone even trusts this ump to call their games. The guy's a joke.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 04:21pm
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The PU explained that this was similar to a balk,
This part of the comment alone should have been enough to kill the intergrity of any softball umpire.
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 11:27pm
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I cant imagine a coed beer league that would have "illegal pitch rules only for males".. any coed beer league I've seen holds the standards higher for the women players. Sounds like BS.
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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 08:14am
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This part of the comment alone should have been enough to kill the intergrity of any softball umpire.
Trust me, his integrity with me went out the window a long time ago. There have been other problems with this umpire, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I just wanted to make sure there was no actual rule like this in any rule book, and it looks like that's the case. As I said before, this guy's a joke of an umpire, and he's one of the few that I don't like to call with.
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