You make the call, part 3,607

[Mark Padgett]

NF rules. A1 passes the ball to A2. The ball deflects off A2 and heads toward the sideline. The ball bounces inbounds and as the ball then is in the air over the OOB area, A2 tries to jump from inbounds to tap it back before it (or he) touches anything OOB and it appears that he will be able to do this successfully. However, while A2 is in the air and reaching for the ball, coach B (who is legally standing in his box OOB) grabs the ball.

What's your call?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
NF rules. A1 passes the ball to A2. The ball deflects off A2 and heads toward the sideline. The ball bounces inbounds and as the ball then is in the air over the OOB area, A2 tries to jump from inbounds to tap it back before it (or he) touches anything OOB and it appears that he will be able to do this successfully. However, while A2 is in the air and reaching for the ball, coach B (who is legally standing in his box OOB) grabs the ball.

What's your call?

Hmm... very interesting. Options, and next play:

1) delay of game warning, and A's ball
2) delay of game technical foul, and obvious...
3) violation on B, A's ball

My choice is 2.

[Bart Tyson]

option 4) violation on team A.

[thumpferee]

Ok, I'll give this a try.

A's ball at the spot of the illegal touch.

NFHS Rules Book '02-'03 - 7-2-Art 1 & 2

[Bart Tyson]

Originally posted by thumpferee
Ok, I'll give this a try.

A's ball at the spot of the illegal touch.

NFHS Rules Book '02-'03 - 7-2-Art 1 & 2

Don't think these rules apply. Player = the 10 legal players on the court.

[thumpferee]

Originally posted by Bart Tyson

Don't think these rules apply. Player = the 10 legal players on the court.

Any other reference for us here?

Where is the penalty stated for such an action in the rule book?

I couldn't find it. I was just givin it a shot as I stated.

[SamIAm]

I vote for Option 2.

[Bart Tyson]

Originally posted by thumpferee

Any other reference for us here?

Where is the penalty stated for such an action in the rule book?

I couldn't find it. I was just givin it a shot as I stated.

Like you said no penalty in the rule book. Sooo option 4

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by Bart Tyson

Like you said no penalty in the rule book. Sooo option 4

The ball is still inbounds while it was over the OOB plane. This is no different than a ball bouncing on the floor inbounds and A1 going for it, when the Coach B reaches through the OOB plane from OOB and then touches the ball. He has interfered with a live ball.

Unless a case play is cited, under 2-3, a T shall be called.

AKA, option 2.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JugglingReferee

The ball is still inbounds while it was over the OOB plane. This is no different than a ball bouncing on the floor inbounds and A1 going for it, when the Coach B reaches through the OOB plane from OOB and then touches the ball. He has interfered with a live ball.

Unless a case play is cited, under 2-3, a T shall be called.

AKA, option 2.

Soooooooo......

Using your same logic, it's a T if the ball hits the coach while he's sitting on the bench?

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Feb 5th, 2004 at 07:31 PM]

[ref18]

When it is out of bounds, and within his box, the coach can touch it. It's in his area. What if it were to brush against his leg, i don't think a T would be warrented there.

The ball is out of bounds when it touches something that is out of bounds. Whether it be the scorer's table, the floor, the wall, an official or a coach. If the ball is coming towards him while he is in his coaching box, he has the right to grab it.

As long as he doesn't interfere with the ball while it is still inbounds, or outside of his coaching box.

[ReadyToRef]

As long as he doesn't interfere with the ball while it is still inbounds...

Isn't the ball still inbounds until it touches something out of bounds?

[ref18]

I think i phrased that wrong. I should have said that he can touch it once it passes the out of bounds plane and into his coaching box.

Although i can't find a rule to support this, i might be wrong.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Bart Tyson

Like you said no penalty in the rule book. Sooo option 4

Option 4 it is.

B's ball.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ReadyToRef
As long as he doesn't interfere with the ball while it is still inbounds...

Isn't the ball still inbounds until it touches something out of bounds?

Yeah, and that something is coach B.