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refnrev Wed Oct 01, 2008 09:02pm

Some nights the VB gods smile on you!
 
Last Thursday night I picked up a game from a friend that double booked. It's homecoming at both schools so both teams want to get to the festivities. We start JV game at 5:15. To save time by mutual consent coaches agree to a cap of 25 in first two games and 15 for third. I am R2. First 25-24, second 25-23 and third one 15-14. Man were they fun for JV.
Varsity game. I'm R1. Regular rules. First game visitors won 25-19. Second game Home wins 25-23. Third game home is up 12-2 at one point. Visitors come back and win 26-24. Great games. Big, new, well lit, spacious gym. Air conditioned gym! Great sportsmanship from everyone. It was soooo much fun!:D

OmniSpiker Fri Oct 03, 2008 01:27pm

Team vs Team and the officials are invisible. :D

MCBear Sat Oct 04, 2008 07:34pm

rnr, I see only one problem in what was done. I don't believe that the coaches have the authority to institute a "cap" on games in a match unless your state HS association allows that to be done. Since JV is governed under NFHS rules, IMHO, the winner is required to win by 2 points and only the second game met that criteria. With the scores that you posted, playing until someone actually won by 2, anyone could have legally won the match rather than the way that it was decided. As always, YMMV.

outathm Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:29pm

I have been told on a number of occasions and for different sports that NFHS only governs Varsity sports. That may just be a VA thing, but we can so what we want (or the coaches want) in the JV games around here. 3out of 3 is the example that comes to mind. Often making me wonder if the 3rd game is necc. when the first 2 are 25-5, 25-9.

MCBear Sun Oct 05, 2008 04:43am

outathm, usually the state association decides on any deviations from the national rules set. It is usually NOT left up to individual coaches or schools to decide on rules variations.

mbyron Sun Oct 05, 2008 07:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCBear (Post 541222)
outathm, usually the state association decides on any deviations from the national rules set. It is usually NOT left up to individual coaches or schools to decide on rules variations.

That's true, and moreover the scope of state rulings is generally limited by FED.

Scrapper1 Sun Oct 05, 2008 07:51am

Just my 2 cents here, but I was recently at a match (I was not officiating) at which the Freshman match preceded the JV/V matches. When the teams split the first two sets, the coaches agreed that the 3rd would be to only 10 points, in order to keep the JV/V matches on schedule.

I think below the varsity level (since the standings don't really count for anything), there's much more flexibility given to coaches and officials to do what they feel is best for the match.

FMadera Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:19am

Our state association says a match format can be deviated for tournaments and subvarsity matches. I ask the coaches what they want to do during the captain's meeting.

outathm Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:02pm

I understand that most states govern all levels of HS sports and use NFHS. That is why i said 'It might be a VA thing'. I just know that there are a number of different rule sets in a number of different sports that have nothing to do with NFHS and the varying governing bodies, down to teams playing, can sometimes change a rule. Unless it is a set NFHS rule that someone is misapplying, to say they did something wrong may not be the best route to take.

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:28pm

Our association covers three counties in lower NY State, and in the one county, it is almost standard practice for the 7/8 grade teams to play four, five, sometimes SIX sets to get a lot of game experience for their players - which is great for us, as we get a real nice fee for it - about $100 each for the double match, and like 90 for the five set match :D! There is one school where the coach always has about 30 kids suited up, so she almost HAS to play a double match!

My first year, I got assigned to that school in an emergency situation - by myself! Made $174 for that one trip! :eek: I ALMOST sweated, too..... :p

OmniSpiker Thu Oct 09, 2008 09:57am

Stories like these makes me want to quit my day job....:D

refnrev Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:02pm

It was a great night. The best VB night I have ever had.


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