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iowafanseattle Mon Mar 05, 2007 02:31pm

ceiling question
 
CYO Volleyball ( I assume using High School Rules)

Game at a Gym with the dividing curtain rolled up (above the net).

Two situations happened:

1. Serve hits the bottom of the rolled up curtain and continues over the net
and lands 'In'.

2. Serve goes up and over the rolled up curtain and its supports. Not hitting
anything, but disappearing from view for a quick moment. Lands 'In' on the
other side.

Are these legal serves ? The game official called them both legal serves.

refnrev Mon Mar 05, 2007 06:36pm

1. Illegal serve. Ball is dead when it hits the overhead structure. Official booted this one.

2. I'm not sure I've got an accurate picture of this so I'd have to see the situation you're talking about. Did it disappear from the view of the fans or of the players? I hope the officials pre-gamed this with each other then with the coaches and captains.

MCBear Mon Mar 05, 2007 07:07pm

1 out of 2!
 
As refnrev indicated,

1. is a dead ball. A served ball cannot touch anything other than the top of the net on its way to the opponent's court. Your partner blew this one - it was dead on contact with the rolled-up curtain.

2. If you are CERTAIN that the ball did not contact anything in threading its way over the curtain and its supports, it is a legal serve and play-on.

iowafanseattle Mon Mar 05, 2007 07:13pm

ceiling question
 
I am a basketball official that was a volunteer line-judge for this volleyball game.

thanks for your input.

FMadera Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCBear
2. If you are CERTAIN that the ball did not contact anything in threading its way over the curtain and its supports, it is a legal serve and play-on.

My own spin...unless you are CERTAIN the ball contacted something, play on.

I wouldn't call something based on what I think might have happened.

jmaellis Tue Mar 06, 2007 02:25pm

We have a HS gym around here that has one of those NBA type score boards that hang from the ceiling at mid-court.

On a couple of occasions last season a high lofting pass over the net has traveled between the roof and the top of the scoreboard and did not hit anything on the way (based on the trajectory, speed and angle of the ball when it "reappeared" on the other side of the net). Both time this happened as the result of a player chasing the ball that is heading out of bounds past the end line after the second hit and is returned by the player with her back to the net.

refnrev Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:09pm

[QUOTE=FMadera]My own spin...unless you are CERTAIN the ball DID NOT contact anything, play on.
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Are you sure this is what you wanted to say? :confused: Or did you mean unless you are certain the ball DID hit something?

FMadera Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:04am

Oops, yeah, momentary brain death. I've edited appropriately.


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