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IK13 Thu Jul 31, 2025 06:40pm
Administrative sactions
 
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The referees suspend play during the second set due to unruly spectators from the home team who have affected playing conditions. No host administrator is present, so the head coach of the home team addresses the problem. During the third set, the referees must again suspend play due to the unruly spectators.

AS) Administrative Sanction
DP) Delay Penalty
DQ) Disqualification
DW) Delay Warning
IR) Denial, Improper Request
IWP) Individual Warning or Penalty
No fault, Play continues
PtR) Team R wins the rally and a point
PtS) Team S wins the rally and a point
RP) Replay
S) Substitution
TO) Timeout
According to RefSchool, the correct answer is DP.
Where is this in the rules? Delay sanction assessed due to spectators?


Here's something from the rule book:
Quote:
19.2.5.4. If spectators enter the playing area or other spectator behavior issues
occur and the host administration fails to resolve the problem (even after
being directed by the referees), the referees may issue an administrative
yellow card (warning) to the team associated with the involved spectators.
If play cannot be resumed or if play must be suspended again, the first
referee sanctions the team at fault with an administrative red card (point).
Any subsequent incidents involving spectators may be sanctioned with an
additional administrative red card (point) for each incident. If play cannot be
resumed, the offending team defaults the match.
I like the intent, but the wording imo is rather imprecise....

How would the host administration fail to resolve the problem, yet we continue to play to get to the second suspension and the red card? It doesn't make sense. I'm not resuming play until the current issue is taken care of! If it stays unresolved within a reasonable time frame (care to put a number to that?) - then we're straight to
Quote:
If play cannot be
resumed, the offending team defaults the match.
If the host management resolves it then what? No yellow AS card? Delay as per RuleSchool above?

It also does not explicitly specify if the red card would come out for any subsequent incident, or only if by the same team's fans as the first time?
Is each side of spectators "allowed" to earn their team a yellow, then red or as long as any side gets an yellow, the next one is red regardless of which team is going to get it?

What if the incident cannot be blamed squarely on one side?

bob jenkins Fri Aug 01, 2025 06:09am
It was a new rule added last year:

6.5.2 Crowd Control
Failure of the host administration to control/address spectator conduct in
the playing area as described in Rule 19.2.5 will result in assessment of an
administrative yellow card (warning) to the team at fault. Subsequent crowd
control issues during the same match may be further sanctioned with an
administrative red card (point) per incident.

IK13 Fri Aug 01, 2025 10:48am
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1053985)
It was a new rule added last year:

6.5.2 Crowd Control
Failure of the host administration to control/address spectator conduct in
the playing area as described in Rule 19.2.5 will result in assessment of an
administrative yellow card (warning) to the team at fault. Subsequent crowd
control issues during the same match may be further sanctioned with an
administrative red card (point) per incident.
Refers to 19.2.5, some of which I already quoted. And does not give a delay sanction as the RuleSchool question answer says.


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