Substitution

[bbman]

Sub comes into the substitution area, but coach calls her back before R2 reconizers her. Must she enter or can the coach call her back?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bbman

Sub comes into the substitution area, but coach calls her back before R2 reconizers her. Must she enter or can the coach call her back?

Entering the zone is a sub request. In HS, the coach must sub or take a delay penalty.

[bbman]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Entering the zone is a sub request. In HS, the coach must sub or take a delay penalty.

So, If he coach takes a delay penalty, the sub does not have to go in?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bbman

So, If he coach takes a delay penalty, the sub does not have to go in?

Correct. And, my use of the word "penalty" was incorrect -- it's a warning the first time; a penalty / loss of point/rally the second time in a set.

[bbman]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Correct. And, my use of the word "penalty" was incorrect -- it's a warning the first time; a penalty / loss of point/rally the second time in a set.

Great, thanks
If coach asked for a T.O. in this senero, would sub still have to come in?

[Scrapper1]

It sounds like bbman is using NFHS rules. In NCAA, this is not a delay warning if it is the first occurrence of the set. It would be in Improper Request. A second improper request in the same set would generate a delay warning.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It sounds like bbman is using NFHS rules. In NCAA, this is not a delay warning if it is the first occurrence of the set. It would be in Improper Request. A second improper request in the same set would generate a delay warning.

Yes -- I defaulted to HS rules.

[bbman]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes -- I defaulted to HS rules.

If coach asked for a T.O. in this senero, would sub still have to come in?

[bob jenkins]

I *think* we're going to finish with the sub request (sub or delay) before we acknowledge the TO request.

[FMadera]

I'll give the real world answer.

Player gets into the sub zone, and comes back out before the whistle, warn her not to do it again, don't sanction. That said, you should be aware of things, and generally, once they step into the sub zone, whistle.

Now, if a team is out of subs, and a player is used to coming in, steps in, and coach is like NO NO NO, and player comes out of the zone quickly, don't look for trouble.

Just my thoughts.