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Scrapper1 Thu Sep 08, 2022 07:56pm

Improper Request
 
Is there an IR in NFHS? I looked in the book for a sanction for withdrawing a sub request before the request is recognized by an official's whistle.

In the NCAA, this is an Improper Request. But I don't see that in the FED rulebook.

bob jenkins Thu Sep 08, 2022 08:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 1048717)
Is there an IR in NFHS? I looked in the book for a sanction for withdrawing a sub request before the request is recognized by an official's whistle.

In the NCAA, this is an Improper Request. But I don't see that in the FED rulebook.

It's a YUD (assuming the sub made it to the sbustitution zone.)

FED has no IR.

Scrapper1 Thu Sep 08, 2022 09:06pm

So you give the yellow, whether you blow the whistle or not?

bob jenkins Fri Sep 09, 2022 06:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 1048719)
So you give the yellow, whether you blow the whistle or not?

Ah...

The rule does say " YUD ... after the request has been recognized"

But, I think it's supposed to be recognized as soon as the sub enters the zone.

So ... now I have the same question you do.

zozman Mon Sep 12, 2022 08:00am

Substitution Not Always A Delay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 1048719)
So you give the yellow, whether you blow the whistle or not?



No. If there is no whistle by the R2 to honor the substitution requst by the coach and no sub enters the zone and no delay is apparent, there is no yellow card. If the coach makes a substitution request and the sub never enters the zone and the coach withdraws the request immediately and, in the judgement of the R2, there is no delay, deny the request and move on. However, if you honor the request with a whistle and there is no substitution, there is delay YUD. (NFHS 10-2-7-2)

Comment: This is why just because a coach signals a substitution, I hold my whistle until I see a player approaching the zone and only blow my whistle when the sub is IN the zone. If you blow the whistle to honor the substitution request too early, and there is no substitute for whatever reason, there is a YUD because you honored the request.

zoz


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