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bob jenkins Wed Oct 27, 2021 08:08pm

Brb
 
Any hints on identifying BRBs? I know the rule, and I can get (well, most of the time) BRAs, but I am focused on the offensive side of the play, so I never notice*who* is doing the blocking, so I have apparently missed some BRBs (or attempted BRBs if there was no contact) in the past couple of matches.

Do I try to look at the blocking side while the set is in the air and then get back to the attacking side to judge the hit? Do I try to look at the blockers after the block? Do I ....?

timasdf Wed Oct 27, 2021 09:26pm

Remember: You are not *required* to make this call the instant it happens.

Also, nearly 100% of illegal back row blocks are a result of overpasses that the setter attempts to save, but the defense hits/blocks it into the back row setter's hands...while the hands are still above the net.

It's exceedingly rare at JV, Varsity, or college level, that a back row player actually attempts a standard block.

bob jenkins Thu Oct 28, 2021 06:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by timasdf (Post 1045268)
Remember: You are not *required* to make this call the instant it happens.

Also, nearly 100% of illegal back row blocks are a result of overpasses that the setter attempts to save, but the defense hits/blocks it into the back row setter's hands...while the hands are still above the net.

It's exceedingly rare at JV, Varsity, or college level, that a back row player actually attempts a standard block.

Yes -- I can get it on the overpass -- but I'm talking / asking about the more standard attack by a front row player into a block and one of the blockers is (as it turns out) a back-row player.

FMadera Thu Oct 28, 2021 09:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1045270)
Yes -- I can get it on the overpass -- but I'm talking / asking about the more standard attack by a front row player into a block and one of the blockers is (as it turns out) a back-row player.

You will rarely, if ever, have this happen. The only times I've seen this in a block situation is in a 6-2 where a back row player has blocked, and the back row player stays at the net, while the front row player goes to the back row (works great on refs who rely on where the players play defense, rather than *knowing* who is front row). Otherwise, you would need to have a back row player all of a sudden forget she's back row and come to the front row and block. It *could* happen, but it's rare.

If you suspect something like this has happened, as has been stated, you don't *have* to make this call right away. You can always ask the scorer if the suspected player was one of the last three servers. If so, back row.

bob jenkins Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:20pm

I agree it's rare -- but it's been twice in the past week. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket.

timasdf Fri Oct 29, 2021 08:21am

At what level of play did this happen twice in a week???

bob jenkins Fri Oct 29, 2021 08:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by timasdf (Post 1045322)
At what level of play did this happen twice in a week???

Different levels -- 7th grade parochial league; HS V.

I guess the answer is just to try to get the numbers of the players involved in the block after the fact.


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