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bases loaded walk
Are various rules different on the status of the runners when forced by a base on balls?
e.g., - can the runner going home miss the plate and return (not off field) - is a runner ever safe at the next base after an overrun and a tag - can a scoring runner be appealed out if missing home plate - any others you know Please specify which rules you are discussing. |
Biggest difference I know of is nfhs all runners are considered to be awarded the next base on the walk, and in asa they are not.
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Is anyone else like NFHS in this rule?
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I believe NCAA is same as nfhs, not sure about any other rule sets.
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No at 2nd or 3rd (or first if they round) Yes Ruleset irrelevant on these 3. RKB mentioned the main code difference that applies when the run is the winning run. |
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However, please cite your "yes" for "is a runner ever safe at the next base after an overrun and a tag", in ASA. |
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C. When four balls have been called by the umpire. The batter-runner is awarded first base. That being the case, wouldn't all runners forced to advance as a result of a BB be considered moving to awarded bases? If the response is "no", please explain the logic. |
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The other codes are odd here, not ASA... Why would the other runners be AWARDED the next base - they are allowed to advance, and should do so... |
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Bases loaded, two outs, B6 receives a walk. R1 lollygags coming home, while R2 hustles to 3rd, overruns the base, and is tagged out having passed 3rd BEFORE R1 reaches home. If only the batter is awarded (the rule you cited), and the others are simply forced (ASA), then the run does not score. If bases to all forced runners are "awarded" (NCAA and NFHS), then the run scores, despite the 3rd out on a timing play preceding the run. Most of us (I believe, but certainly I) think the ASA ruling is more appropriate, and see no rule (other than an approved/case play ruling) that creates nor supports the NCAA and NFHS position. |
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Situation: Bases loaded, 3-2 count. Runners are going on the pitch. Batter does not swing and it is called ball 4. Catcher for some reason throws to third. Runner slides in, touches 3rd and overslides third base. She is tagged out after coming off the base, before the runner from third touches home. Under ASA rules the run would not score. I personally think that the bases all should be considered awarded bases is so much as the run scoring goes. I have no problem calling the runner out at third on this, but the run should still score in my opinion. I don't think this should be a timing play situation. |
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If the offense chooses to or makes the error of placing themselves in jeopardy, that is all on them. The defense should not take a hit for making a good play on a bad base running. |
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