Pitcher Stepping Back Before Pitch (NFHS)

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

Legal in HS. We had several umpires who do both ASA and HS that have repeatedly sent in proposals to the NFHS to get this rule changed to conform to the rules used in all rule sets. Every time the response has been no. They have responded with a reason for not changing it, but to me it is an excuse to be different and nothing more.

You are mistaken about their explanation. The rules committee, based on member feedback, strongly believes participation would be lessened in areas where the pitchers are so ineffective now with that added advantage that they would simply stop playing if the rules changed. Their official statement is that high school softball is not meant solely for the elite athletes, nor simply as a feeder to NCAA. And that is how they honestly feel.

This year's committee will (in June, I understand), consider a proposal to make that one of the "state adoption" options for the future. That should help in states where the members (or state administrators) believe the rule should be changed. It would be interesting to see how many actually would adopt the tougher pitching rule if it is their decision.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

You are mistaken about their explanation. The rules committee, based on member feedback, strongly believes participation would be lessened in areas where the pitchers are so ineffective now with that added advantage that they would simply stop playing if the rules changed. Their official statement is that high school softball is not meant solely for the elite athletes, nor simply as a feeder to NCAA. And that is how they honestly feel.

This year's committee will (in June, I understand), consider a proposal to make that one of the "state adoption" options for the future. That should help in states where the members (or state administrators) believe the rule should be changed. It would be interesting to see how many actually would adopt the tougher pitching rule if it is their decision.

I know that Florida uses FED rules for HS softball, but have adopted a state rule to not allow the backward step. They apparently didn't wait for the committee to make it a state option.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I know that Florida uses FED rules for HS softball, but have adopted a state rule to not allow the backward step. They apparently didn't wait for the committee to make it a state option.

NFHS does allow states to alter rules in defined trial periods to present results to the rules committee and members to attempt to persuade rules changes. Florida, in fact, did that with 43' years ago before the national adoption. To my knowledge, they petitioned and were initially refused; and they did wait until permission was granted, so I don't think is a member being a renegade.

I suspect this is part of a trial; and to present statistical basis, not just guesstimates as to the overall affect to batting average, pitching statistics (and if any schools dropped the sport as a result of their actual ineptness).

[Dakota]

Is that the same argument used to keeping the step back legal in men's fastpitch?

[teebob21]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Is that the same argument used to keeping the step back legal in men's fastpitch?

In my experience talking with MFP players, the answer is yes, surprisingly. It came down to participation. Same reason we let them leap and all the other shenanigans that used to get called, I suppose. If I recall correctly, ASA tried to enforce the pitching rule on the men in 2002 or so. Several teams in my area at the time either quit, went to slowpitch, or switched to a unsanctioned league that had "throw it underhand from the circle" as the pitching rule. (<------ Sarcasm, but not by much.)

Purely anecdotal, I know. I don't speak for TPTB or the rule interpreters of any code.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

You are mistaken about their explanation. The rules committee, based on member feedback, strongly believes participation would be lessened in areas where the pitchers are so ineffective now with that added advantage that they would simply stop playing if the rules changed. Their official statement is that high school softball is not meant solely for the elite athletes, nor simply as a feeder to NCAA. And that is how they honestly feel.

This year's committee will (in June, I understand), consider a proposal to make that one of the "state adoption" options for the future. That should help in states where the members (or state administrators) believe the rule should be changed. It would be interesting to see how many actually would adopt the tougher pitching rule if it is their decision.

I stand by my idea that it is to be different. Yes they may say participation is the reason for allowing the step back, but I think there are other things in the rules that impact participation much more than a pitcher stepping back or not stepping back.