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Linknblue Mon Apr 20, 2015 03:02pm

An appeal or not?
 
ASA Senior Slowpitch.

Situation: Courtesy runners are unlimited but can only run once per inning. We have a CR that runs for B1. Later in the inning the same CR is discovered running again for B7. Umpire knows, scorekeeper knows but defensive coach isn't saying anything.

Is this an appeal play as in a "batting out of order" question by the defense?
Is this an umpire monitored thing that falls under "preventive" umpiring?

The book says it's an "out" but doesn't say who brought it up. I can't find it in the appeals section either.

I'm think'n it's an appeal by defense but.....????:confused:

I have looked and can't find a rule reference addressing this. Can anyone enlighten me please?

Thanks,
Linknblue

CecilOne Mon Apr 20, 2015 04:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linknblue (Post 961109)
ASA Senior Slowpitch.

Situation: Courtesy runners are unlimited but can only run once per inning. We have a CR that runs for B1. Later in the inning the same CR is discovered running again for B7. Umpire knows, scorekeeper knows but defensive coach isn't saying anything.

Is this an appeal play as in a "batting out of order" question by the defense?
Is this an umpire monitored thing that falls under "preventive" umpiring?

The book says it's an "out" but doesn't say who brought it up. I can't find it in the appeals section either.

I'm think'n it's an appeal by defense but.....????:confused:

I have looked and can't find a rule reference addressing this. Can anyone enlighten me please?

Thanks,
Linknblue

It does not say an appeal is needed, but then, Senior rules are a bit vague.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linknblue (Post 961109)
ASA Senior Slowpitch.

Situation: Courtesy runners are unlimited but can only run once per inning. We have a CR that runs for B1. Later in the inning the same CR is discovered running again for B7. Umpire knows, scorekeeper knows but defensive coach isn't saying anything.

Is this an appeal play as in a "batting out of order" question by the defense?
Is this an umpire monitored thing that falls under "preventive" umpiring?

The book says it's an "out" but doesn't say who brought it up. I can't find it in the appeals section either.

I'm think'n it's an appeal by defense but.....????:confused:

I have looked and can't find a rule reference addressing this. Can anyone enlighten me please?

Thanks,
Linknblue

8.9.C.3 simply states that if the same player is used as a CR a second time in the same inning, s/he is rule out. Of course, the ruling also states they are removed from the base, but really, what the hell else are you going to do with a runner just ruled out?

This is not an appeal and the umpires should keep track of CRs. Remember, this is for championship play, most local leagues are much more relaxed with these type of rules.

MD Longhorn Tue Apr 21, 2015 01:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 961112)
Senior rules are a bit vague.

They can be vague... who's going to remember them?


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