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Old Mon Oct 13, 2014, 06:14pm
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Why? We do the same in baseball.
One of my biggest frustration is baseball guys who use baseball mechanics and customs to justify (or ridicule) the way things are done in softball....

That being said, I have been taught to monitor injuries (although it was usually the Umpire closest to the injury that does the monitoring.
The monitoring shouldn't be joining in the conversation, but just standing a distance away and being attentive.

I never questioned the instructions and I was never given a reason, but I supposed it was to prevent fake injuries for the purpose of delivering special instructions.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:34am
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Despite Mike's commentary on this, we've been told to stand within earshot as well for this very same reason. If they are talking about the injury, no worries - if they start talking strategy, the injury timeout is over ... and if they keep talking strategy, it can become a visit. I've been told this at both ASA and NFHS clinics.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:00pm
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Despite Mike's commentary on this, we've been told to stand within earshot as well for this very same reason. If they are talking about the injury, no worries - if they start talking strategy, the injury timeout is over ... and if they keep talking strategy, it can become a visit. I've been told this at both ASA and NFHS clinics.
So, if the coach asks, "any suggestions?" of the pitcher being wheeled off the field on a stretcher you are going to charge them a conference if she offers an answer?


IMO, this is your standard chicken shit stuff that umpires could do without.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:39pm
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So, if the coach asks, "any suggestions?" of the pitcher being wheeled off the field on a stretcher you are going to charge them a conference if she offers an answer?


IMO, this is your standard chicken shit stuff that umpires could do without.
That would be chicken shit stuff indeed. Good thing I didn't even remotely say anything like it.

Also, it's been my experience, at least so far, that a pitcher who has requested warm up pitches to see if they can continue is quite unlikely to end up being wheeled off the field on a stretcher.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 02:45pm
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Here is the situation I had recently:

Hard hit ball up the middle hits the pitcher on the leg. Not life threatening, pitcher doesn't fall down or anything.

After the play is over, D coach asks to check on his pitcher...I tell him to go ahead and walk a discreet distance away.

I hear this exchange:

Coach: You OK?
Pitcher: Yes

Coach: Good, now here is how we want to pitch this next batter....
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:46pm
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Here is the situation I had recently:

Hard hit ball up the middle hits the pitcher on the leg. Not life threatening, pitcher doesn't fall down or anything.

After the play is over, D coach asks to check on his pitcher...I tell him to go ahead and walk a discreet distance away.

I hear this exchange:

Coach: You OK?
Pitcher: Yes

Coach: Good, now here is how we want to pitch this next batter....
Which when you stop the D coach, he just goes back to the dugout and gives the call to the catcher.

Or it could have went:

Coach: Can I check on my pitcher?
You to pitcher: You okay?
Pitcher: Yeah.
You to coach: She's good coach

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Old Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:14am
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Which when you stop the D coach, he just goes back to the dugout and gives the call to the catcher.


How are you going to do that, Mike, if you aren't within earshot. You just told us going out there to be within earshot was one of the dumbest things you'd ever heard.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:59am
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Which when you stop the D coach, he just goes back to the dugout and gives the call to the catcher.

Or it could have went:

Coach: Can I check on my pitcher?
You to pitcher: You okay?
Pitcher: Yeah.
You to coach: She's good coach

Exactly my point....I left out a few details of the specific game situation because I didn't feel like typing that much and it wasn't relevant to my point.

This particular coach was trying to use the "injury" to grab a free defensive conference.
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You to coach: She's good coach
I will not take that responsibility.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:20am
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One of my biggest frustration is baseball guys who use baseball mechanics and customs to justify (or ridicule) the way things are done in softball....
One of my biggest frustrations is people who get annoyed at comparisons between baseball and softball as if none of them are valid. I was simply saying that it's not an unheard of practice to have an umpire listen in, is all.
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