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RKBUmp Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:26am

Texas HS/club ball coach rules
 
Anyone here that works school ball in Texas familiar with the rules regarding hs coaches also coaching club teams?

Looks like my kid is relocating to Dallas and will be the schools varsity head coach. Want to find out what the rules are regarding her also working with club teams so she does not violate any rules.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:50am

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Originally Posted by RKBUmp (Post 937868)
Anyone here that works school ball in Texas familiar with the rules regarding hs coaches also coaching club teams?

Looks like my kid is relocating to Dallas and will be the schools varsity head coach. Want to find out what the rules are regarding her also working with club teams so she does not violate any rules.


I would suggest that she talk with her A.D. and also contact the StateHSAA for Texas to get the coaching rules that pertain to her sport.

MTD, Sr.

bluejay Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:03am

Texas UIL
 
Here is the web site for Texas high school sports. You should find what you need here. My understanding is a high school can coach a summer team but not their own.

UILTexas.org/athletics

MDUmp Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:29am

Ask on heybucket.com

RKBUmp Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:35am

According to that UIL link and article 1209, HS coaches cannot coach or instruct players from within their schools attendance zone. I have seen other states with rules that limit the number of players a HS coach can have on his team, but have not seen a complete restriction as it appears Texas has.

Skahtboi Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:54am

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Originally Posted by RKBUmp (Post 937868)
Anyone here that works school ball in Texas familiar with the rules regarding hs coaches also coaching club teams?

Looks like my kid is relocating to Dallas and will be the schools varsity head coach. Want to find out what the rules are regarding her also working with club teams so she does not violate any rules.

Everything you need to know is right here.

bsnalex Fri Jul 18, 2014 07:51am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 937878)
Everything you need to know is right here.

Noticed this in that file:

SUNDAY PROHIBITION. A League participant school shall not participate in any athletic contest or conduct any
practice or teach any plays, formations or skills on Sunday


My first thought was "Ew".

nopachunts Fri Jul 18, 2014 02:40pm

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Originally Posted by bsnalex (Post 937962)
Noticed this in that file:

SUNDAY PROHIBITION. A League participant school shall not participate in any athletic contest or conduct any
practice or teach any plays, formations or skills on Sunday


My first thought was "Ew".

The State of Texas used to have "Blue Laws" and some business couldn't be open on Sunday. The laws have changed quite a bit but car dealerships can be open on either Saturday or Sunday, but not both. Beer, wine, and liquor sales are also affected after 9 PM or on Sunday.

There are other quirks to the law.

Manny A Fri Jul 18, 2014 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by bsnalex (Post 937962)
Noticed this in that file:

SUNDAY PROHIBITION. A League participant school shall not participate in any athletic contest or conduct any
practice or teach any plays, formations or skills on Sunday


My first thought was "Ew".

Ew what? There are still communities that feel Sunday should be observed as a day of rest in accordance with the teachings of Christian faith. No big deal.

When my son played LL Baseball, our local league never scheduled any activities on Sunday mornings, when many people were attending worship services. Make-ups for rescheduled games would be played Sunday afternoons, if we couldn't accommodate them any other days.

Rich Fri Jul 18, 2014 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 937984)
Ew what? There are still communities that feel

Entire communities? Sucks to be Jewish or some other non-Christian in that community then, doesn't it?

Rich1 Fri Jul 18, 2014 05:53pm

From a Texas coach
 
In Texas, coaches may not work with their own players during out of school times such as summer. This includes anyone in 7th - 12th grade who lives in the school's boundries. However, a coach can work camps or coach teams if the kids are from other schools.

I work at a big summer camp in the Austin area and one of the first things we do is ask what schools the kids are going to and then make sure they end up with other coaches.

On a side note, a lot of less scrupulous coaches arrange to "swap" teams with a nearby friend or use a parent as a figure head while they pull all the strings at practices & games.

By the way, UIL rules only apply to schools and coaches, not other teams. A team nit governed by UIL can play on sundays, recruit from outside their town, etc.

chapmaja Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:24pm

I thought Michigan was a pain with their 3 person, 4 person, and out of season rules (down time, dead period, ect).

At least the Texas rule is real simple to understand, don't do it.

I wonder if the Texas rule has an exception for children of the coach.

We had a debate in Michigan a few years back because a coach was violating an out of season coaching rule by coach her own child during a dead period. A rival school coach saw this coach "practicing" with the child and reported it. To my knowledge nothing came of it, but I never heard either way.

Manny A Wed Jul 23, 2014 01:45pm

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Originally Posted by chapmaja (Post 938140)
We had a debate in Michigan a few years back because a coach was violating an out of season coaching rule by coach her own child during a dead period. A rival school coach saw this coach "practicing" with the child and reported it. To my knowledge nothing came of it, but I never heard either way.

Typical rat coach.


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