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I love bringing what I learn here to conversations with my partners at tournaments. Constantly finding how much more I can learn.
A recent thread dealt with interference with a batted ball, not necessarily a fair ball. Batter chops a grounder up the foul side of 1B line. Ball isn't necessarily curving into fair territory, but F1 is charging on the ball to make sure it stays foul. BR collides with F1 before F1 gets there. BR out for INT. Obviously, we have to be damn sure F1 is not just retrieving the thing, as opposed to making a "play". This was as hard a sell with these guys as when I enlightened them about RS 38 (awarding home when runner leaves 1B too soon, but is between 2 & 3 when F7 airmails it out of play). No point to my post, except to say I'm always learning.... |
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That's not what I got from the thread here (trying to find it), nor from ASA (8.2.F BATTER-RUNNER IS OUT. When batter-runner interferes with a fielder attempting to field a batted ball.)
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That said, I still don't think it matters if the pitcher had a play, she was trying to field the ball even if casually, no? |
I'm sure one of the two scenarios would result in multiple ejections, not, of course, that that would have anything to do with my ruling.
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I only see a couple instances where INT could be called on a foul ball situation.
First, a foul fly ball that has an opportunity to be caught. Second, a ground ball in foul territory which has a chance to become a fair ball Third, a foul ball which the offensive team member initiates malicious contact with a fielder. Even in this one I'm not sure we have INT, but I know we have an ejection. Mabye I am missing something. |
Still looking for the thread... fortunately, I've never made this incorrect call, but I hope Irish Mike posts here soon, because his comments on the topic were those I remember (and apparently the ones I misunderstood :()
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That said, let me play devil's advocate for a moment to illustrate the problem I have with the way this is written. If the rule is meant to be interpreted the same way, then why is there a difference between the rules: 8-2-F: When the batter runner interferes with a fielder attempting to field a batted ball 8-7-J-1: When the runner interferes with a fielder attempting to field a FAIR batted ball. [Emphasis added] (references from 2005 book, hopefully the haven't moved or changed) [Also see the definition of a foul ball which only references runner] You could argue that the definition of making a play saves you (it can't be a play if it's an attempt to field a foul ball since that's not an attempt to make an out.) But this has two problems. One you have the slow pitch third strike problem. And two you have the problem that it renders the rule about a ball being foul when the defense is interfered with superfluous (unless you consider the first the solution to the second). |
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It all comes down to a foul ball is a foul and dead ball, so there is no possibility of INT. What it "could" be is irrelevant. |
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