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Big Slick Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:04am

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 930404)
It's your call at the base. Make it using all the information you have available. Go for help if needed.

Of course, it happened to me last night. Runners on second and third, ball hit to a "ranging" F6. Only play at first, short hop throw. I'm PU, and watching the best I can from outside the base line, as I've got F2 and a runner in front of me. I'm waiting for his call as I'm looking toward first. I don't here anything, so I turned to look at him. His "wide-eyed look" turned into a "what do you have?"

Of course, that brought all the heat on me.

I'm all for "make the call and let the coaches ask." In this case, I would have also accepted: "She is out if she held the base, partner, did she hold the base." That is making a call, and then asking for more info on his own (accepted by the NCAA manual). But he did neither, and brought his (and his crew/partner's) credibility down. We had a long post game about it (as he wants to start moving up).

IRISHMAFIA Sun Apr 13, 2014 07:30am

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Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 931435)
Of course, it happened to me last night. Runners on second and third, ball hit to a "ranging" F6. Only play at first, short hop throw. I'm PU, and watching the best I can from outside the base line, as I've got F2 and a runner in front of me. I'm waiting for his call as I'm looking toward first. I don't here anything, so I turned to look at him. His "wide-eyed look" turned into a "what do you have?"

Of course, that brought all the heat on me.

I'm all for "make the call and let the coaches ask." In this case, I would have also accepted: "She is out if she held the base, partner, did she hold the base." That is making a call, and then asking for more info on his own (accepted by the NCAA manual). But he did neither, and brought his (and his crew/partner's) credibility down. We had a long post game about it (as he wants to start moving up).

How many umpires? How many outs? If two, did the run score? If not, who was covering 3rd?

EsqUmp Sun Apr 13, 2014 07:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 931435)
Of course, it happened to me last night. Runners on second and third, ball hit to a "ranging" F6. Only play at first, short hop throw. I'm PU, and watching the best I can from outside the base line, as I've got F2 and a runner in front of me. I'm waiting for his call as I'm looking toward first. I don't here anything, so I turned to look at him. His "wide-eyed look" turned into a "what do you have?"

Of course, that brought all the heat on me.

I'm all for "make the call and let the coaches ask." In this case, I would have also accepted: "She is out if she held the base, partner, did she hold the base." That is making a call, and then asking for more info on his own (accepted by the NCAA manual). But he did neither, and brought his (and his crew/partner's) credibility down. We had a long post game about it (as he wants to start moving up).

Why didn't you take a step or two to your left or right so you weren't blocked by the catcher and batter-runner? Or were you not really blocked and they were only in front of you? If the former, improve the positioning. If the latter, not relevant.

Big Slick Mon Apr 14, 2014 09:10am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 931607)
Why didn't you take a step or two to your left or right so you weren't blocked by the catcher and batter-runner? Or were you not really blocked and they were only in front of you? If the former, improve the positioning. If the latter, not relevant.

Who said I was "blocked"? I said:
" I'm PU, and watching the best I can from outside the base line, as I've got F2 and a runner in front of me."

I did "improve my positioning" as I adjusted for the "best" look I could get, but "best" is a very relative term. You can only get such a look at it. I gave him the information that I had, which wasn't good.

However, he makes a call, any call, and we don't have an issue.


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