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IRISHMAFIA Sun Mar 09, 2014 07:54pm

Infield Fly - ASA
 
Can someone cite the rule which declares the batter-runner out when an infield fly is declared?

CecilOne Sun Mar 09, 2014 08:04pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 926404)
Can someone cite the rule which declares the batter-runner out when an infield fly is declared?

There is no such rule unless the BR is struck by the infield fly ball.
We discussed this a while ago, no resolution that I remember, except another editing mistake. It should be like 8-2-9 in NFHS. :rolleyes:

Manny A Fri Mar 14, 2014 05:57am

Good luck not calling the BR out when it happens, and you point out to the defensive coach that the rule book doesn't support the out call after his infielder drops the ball and everyone's safe. :p

Rich Ives Fri Mar 14, 2014 09:45am

He said BATTER-runner, not base runner.

Not sure what the question is.

Crabby_Bob Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:23am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 927040)
He said BATTER-runner, not base runner.

BR = Batter-Runner
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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 927040)
Not sure what the question is.

It's about a dopey edit in the rule book.

The Batter-Runner is OUT:
[2011] 8.2.I When an infield fly is declared. If the fair batted ball hits the batter-runner before reaching first base, the ball is dead and the infield fly is invoked.

[2012-present] 8.2.I When an infield fly is declared and the fair batted ball hits the batter-runner before reaching first base. EFFECT: The ball is dead and the infield fly is invoked.

CecilOne Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:24am

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Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob (Post 927047)
BR = Batter-Runner

It's about a dopey edit in the ASA rule book, softball.

edited. ;)

charliej47 Fri Mar 14, 2014 07:40pm

The rule is talking about the ball being dead.

Crabby_Bob Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:01am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 927053)
edited. ;)

I saw what you did there. :)

The title of this thread refers to "ASA".

Umpteenth Mon Mar 17, 2014 08:51am

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Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob (Post 927047)
BR = Batter-Runner


It's about a dopey edit in the rule book.

The Batter-Runner is OUT:
[2011] 8.2.I When an infield fly is declared. If the fair batted ball hits the batter-runner before reaching first base, the ball is dead and the infield fly is invoked.

[2012-present] 8.2.I When an infield fly is declared and the fair batted ball hits the batter-runner before reaching first base. EFFECT: The ball is dead and the infield fly is invoked.

I think we discussed this 2 years ago. This is a very poorly written rule.
"The Batter-Runner is OUT when an infield fly is declared and the fair batted ball hits the batter-runner before reaching first base."

So, in order to be true, both things must occur: the infield fly must be declared, AND the fair batted ball must hit the batter-runner before reaching first base.

Now, we all know that is not the intent of the rule; it seems for some reason two rules were combined into one.

CecilOne Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:09am

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Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob (Post 927122)
I saw what you did there. :)

The title of this thread refers to "ASA".

I thought someone, not you, needed clarification. :rolleyes:


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