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[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Dakota

The difference is that an illegal slide is an illegal act and is, by definition, illegal contact.

That's a bogus notion. A runner can go into the catcher standing up, and as long as there isn't any evidence of maliciousness, it's perfectly legal. But if she goes into the catcher while executing a slide that doesn't meet the definition of a legal slide, she's ruled out.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Manny A

That's a bogus notion. A runner can go into the catcher standing up, and as long as there isn't any evidence of maliciousness, it's perfectly legal. But if she goes into the catcher while executing a slide that doesn't meet the definition of a legal slide, she's ruled out.

Of course, you are speaking Federation, but Tom's comment is not more bogus than the rule.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Manny A

That's a bogus notion. A runner can go into the catcher standing up, and as long as there isn't any evidence of maliciousness, it's perfectly legal. But if she goes into the catcher while executing a slide that doesn't meet the definition of a legal slide, she's ruled out.

NFHS has made a distinction in their rule book. They have defined a legal and an illegal slide. An illegal slide is illegal contact.

A collision CAN be illegal contact, but not necessarily. Malicious contact is illegal contact (see 8-6-14, the very next rule.). Intentional, but not malicious, crashing could be declared as interference under 8-6-10-d.

If you see this as bogus, your argument is with the NFHS, not me.

[Dakota]

From the NFHS case book:

3.6.18 SITUATION A:

F5, who has the ball, is in position at third base to make a tag on advancing R1. R1 (a) maliciously crashes into F5 and dislodges the ball, or (b) runs into F5 without attempting to avoid the tag and dislodges the ball, or (c) attempts to slide and dislodges the ball, or (d) attempts to avoid F5 but remains in the baseline and dislodges the ball.

RULING: In (a) and (b), the ball is dead and R1 is out for not legally attempting to avoid a fielder in the immediate act of making a play on her. Additionally, in (a) R1 is ejected for malicious contact. In (c) and (d), R1 is safe. (8-4-2b,c, Penalty)

... although their rule reference is odd...

[Manny A]

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing out the case book play, Dakota.