13 illegal pitches in state final

Rich

WIAA state softball: Mineral Point takes advantage of 13 illegal pitches and finishes pitch perfect : Prep-zone

The losing team (the team with the 13 illegal pitches called against them) was 25-0 going into the final.

3afan

well probably they finally had umpires with the stones to call IPs ... thats usually the case in stories like this

RKBUmp

Reporter apparently doesnt understand softball bases are only 60'.

Worst part of it is, they even called the coach in before the game and warned him they were going to be looking for it. Found some video from last years WIAA softball championship on youtube, but cant find anything on this years game yet. Would be interesting to see what they were calling.

Rich

RKBUmp wrote
Reporter apparently doesnt understand softball bases are only 60'.

Worst part of it is, they even called the coach in before the game and warned him they were going to be looking for it. Found some video from last years WIAA softball championship on youtube, but cant find anything on this years game yet. Would be interesting to see what they were calling.

There's a video there somewhere. Wait, this is it. Not sure how much of the game they show -- it's just highlights:

Video: Mineral Point wins WIAA Division 3 state softball title : Prep-zone

BTW, the headline originally called them balks, too. 😀

RKBUmp

Not the greatest video and the first 2 pitches he called illegal they start the video with the ball half way to the plate. But based on ones later in the video, yes she is sidearm on some of her deliveries.

MD Longhorn

"I just hope the umpires do this at the beginning of the year and not in the championship game. That’s what stinks.”

A) Will he really feel this way at the beginning of next season?
B) All you umpires who refuse to call your local superstars for IP's, please take this to heart.
C) All you assignors who stop sending umpires to certain schools because the coach complains that they actually dare to call IP's ... please take this to heart as well.

DaveASA/FED

I agree this is an issue. Should never have gotten that far without knowing she was illegal. Should have been called, just like equipment should be checked correctly starting at game 1 of the season. Had a team with 8 bats thrown out at the state finals this weekend, bats they had been using all season without a word from umpires. All 8 were no doubt types of issues that should have been caught. I feel sorry for the team because they have been getting a disservice all year then on possibly the biggest game of thier careers thus far the bat they are used to, been swinging all year lucky grip etc. is taken. Of course who are they mad at, the umpires that let it go ALL season long....nope the ones standing there enforcing the rules correctly!

IRISHMAFIA

RKBUmp wrote
Not the greatest video and the first 2 pitches he called illegal they start the video with the ball half way to the plate. But based on ones later in the video, yes she is sidearm on some of her deliveries.

And she doesn't help the visual effects by what looked like her shifting her hips to the left during the delivery.

They certainly were no using NFHS mechanics 🙂

MD Longhorn

The one at 1:38 is definitely illegal. Ditto 2:02

Big Slick

Provided for discussion.

Two screen captures here. The time is shown for each picture.

CecilOne

3afan wrote
well probably they finally had umpires with the stones to call IPs ... thats usually the case in stories like this

Especially where coaches have direct input to assignments. 😮 🙁

nopachunts

Big Slick wrote
Provided for discussion.

Two screen captures here. The time is shown for each picture.

Where's the BU in your screen shots? If they are using a three man crew, shouldn't U1 be closer to 1B shoulder of F4? Trying to learn softball mechanics.

Big Slick

nopachunts wrote
Where's the BU in your screen shots? If they are using a three man crew, shouldn't U1 be closer to 1B shoulder of F4? Trying to learn softball mechanics.

Although that is an unrelated to the OP, the mechanics by this crew are not standard NFHS (the first play had U3 "rotating home" when U1 chased; there was another play where U1 turned and looked, but didn't chase).

The pre-pitch positioning for U1 with a runner on second is to use either shoulder of F4, where I prefer to use the right shoulder. Your responsibilities (in part) is to cover the pick off at second, and cover first/second if U3 does not chase. Where you choose to position yourself is where you are comfortable.

IRISHMAFIA

nopachunts wrote
Where's the BU in your screen shots? If they are using a three man crew, shouldn't U1 be closer to 1B shoulder of F4? Trying to learn softball mechanics.

No. F3's shoulder shouldn't be in the equation.

darkside

Who's the goofball guy wearing the blue shorty shorts, sleeveless shirt and Minnie Pearl hat at 3:08?

That's scary! 😮

MD Longhorn

IRISHMAFIA wrote
No. F3's shoulder shouldn't be in the equation.

I see no smiley face, so I'm not sure if you were trying to joke.
If not - he didn't say anything about F3's shoulder.

IRISHMAFIA

MD Longhorn wrote
I see no smiley face, so I'm not sure if you were trying to joke.
If not - he didn't say anything about F3's shoulder.

You are correct. I have a tendency to use right and left when designating a shoulder. I misread it.....probably because I see so many umpires, FP & SP that hang near F3 instead of getting their ass over where it belongs, near F4.

CecilOne

IRISHMAFIA wrote
You are correct. I have a tendency to use right and left when designating a shoulder. I misread it.....probably because I see so many umpires, FP & SP that hang near F3 instead of getting their ass over where it belongs, near F4.

And I see some doing the opposite, too lazy to hustle on the steal/PB and in no position to call a pickoff at 1st.

MD Longhorn

CecilOne wrote
And I see some doing the opposite, too lazy to hustle on the steal/PB and in no position to call a pickoff at 1st.

Seen both ... sometimes the same guy at different points in the game or day.

EsqUmp

That is why it is stupid to use SHOULDERS as a factor in starting position. Just use 20-30 feet.