catching equipment
We often see players warming up pitchers w/o catching helmets. Often they try to use a batting helmet because the team only has one catching helmet.
What do you think of a rule change to allow a batting helmet with a throat protector? Do you think it would pass the various organizations? |
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(remember, you asked what I thought) :eek: |
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As for your question, I honestly don't think any nationally-sanctioned organization would consider using a batter's helmet to warm up the pitcher. The NOCSAE certification standard for batting helmets is much different than the standard for catcher's helmets. And even if you attached a dangler to the bottom bar of the mask on a batter's helmet, it wouldn't provide the right protection. |
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Quite often, those teams only have one catcher's mask available for equipment checks. Not sure if the mask is provided by the school, or if it belongs to the player. My guess is that it's the former, since that girl's parents probably can't afford to buy their daughter the necessary equipment. |
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Where are you going to hand the throat protector from? It would have to be the face mask, which is about 3 inches farther from chin than a catcher's mask would be. Certainly wouldn't work in NCAA if they don't use a mask in the first place.
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IF the team only has one catchers mask then why can't the player warming up the pitcher wear it while the catcher is getting her gear on??? I guess I may be missing something here but seems to me like the team has at least 1 catcher's mask so it doesn't matter who uses it when it is needed.:confused:
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I thought it was obvious I was talking about when the catching mask was in use. :rolleyes: Please focus on the OP Q.
Also, I didn't consider this problem: "face mask, which is about 3 inches farther from chin than a catcher's mask would be." |
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Would we be required to "rule" on such a 2nd pitcher warming up issue that is occurring outside the confines of the playing field? If I glance over to DBT and see a catcher w/o a mask on, is that something that I really need to be concerned with?:confused:
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In ASA, the requirement is universal, anywhere an umpire can see inside the complex. In NFHS, they can only legally warm up in the defined warm-up area which must be adjacent to the field and within the view of the umpires (FOR A REASON!!). In NCAA, only a student-athlete catcher receiving the 5 warmup pitches at home plate is required to wear a mask. |
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Ok, so when I can see it happening outside the confines of the playing field (per Fed Case 10.1.2-A) I will instruct F2 to put on the approved protection. However, what if she ignores the instruction or what if see a repeated offense later - what penalty provision do I have as enforcement then? |
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The confines aren't just what's inside the fence. They also include areas outside the fence that players could use for warming up and are within your view. In other words, if you can see it, you have the authority to deal with it. Quote:
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When and where do you think you start and stop being an umpire? If that player looks up at you and shoots you the bird, and mouths "you suck", is she in your jurisdiction to eject? What does the rule book say is the penalty any time a player or coach doesn't conform to what an umpire directs? Why do you need a separate or specific penalty if she refuses this directive? |
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As it relates to fans, parents, etc., you have it right. |
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Obviously we are not focused that much on what happens off the field but if you see this happen, stop the game and require that the catcher wear the required equipment. Only takes a moment. |
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Normally it is JV teams. |
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From out in the field, the BU usually has a better view than the PU. If I notice a pitcher and catcher going out to warm up during the game, I will take a quick glance over there to make sure that the catcher is wearing the proper mask if necessary. If she is not, a quick word to the coach usually solves it. I don't make a big deal out of it or attempt to embarrass anybody, but I do make sure the rule is complied with. Just to add...our area interpretation of "warming up" is if the pitcher is using her normal pitching motion, the mask needs to be on, even if the catcher is standing. If they are just tossing the ball back and forth using the overhand motion, the mask is not required. Anybody do anything different? |
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I will not propose the rule change I started with. |
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