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Rita C Wed Apr 03, 2013 01:03am

Taking a step back
 
NFHS rules. HS varsity.

Pitcher would start with both feet on the plate, then as she started her pitching motion with her hands together would take a step back.

Your call?

Rita

BretMan Wed Apr 03, 2013 04:50am

Sounds like an illegal pitch, if her hands were together before the step back. The step back must be prior to, or simultaneous with, the hands coming together.

Manny A Wed Apr 03, 2013 07:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 888805)
NFHS rules. HS varsity.

Pitcher would start with both feet on the plate, then as she started her pitching motion with her hands together would take a step back.

Your call?

Rita

Rita, Fed rule 6-1-2b is pretty clear on this: "Any step backward shall begin before the hands come together. The step backward may end before or after the hands come together."

Am I missing something?

Tex Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:56am

As BU, I had a good coach comment that happened this week, for calling an illegal pitch for starting her step back after her hands came together.

The coach said, "How can you call an illegal pitch for starting her step back after her hands came together, when her hands didn't come together?"

Oh, the fun of umpiring.

Rita C Wed Apr 03, 2013 01:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 888818)
Rita, Fed rule 6-1-2b is pretty clear on this: "Any step backward shall begin before the hands come together. The step backward may end before or after the hands come together."

Am I missing something?

Nope. But you and I started umpiring about the same time and we both know that some things are called more stringently than others. The former (retired) varsity coach was yelling from the bleachers that there was nothing illegal.

The next question is: What qualifies as a step? This same young lady's foot would slide back as she put her weight back as she started her motion.

Rita

CecilOne Wed Apr 03, 2013 01:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 888919)
The next question is: What qualifies as a step?
Rita

When her foot VISIBLY loses contact with the plate.

Rita C Wed Apr 03, 2013 01:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 888920)
When her foot VISIBLY loses contact with the plate.

Nothing says her foot has to start on the plate.

Rita

HugoTafurst Wed Apr 03, 2013 01:35pm

Rita,
I don't judge dropping the heel as a step back.
I judge peceivable movement backward (away) from the pitcher's plate as a step.

PS:By "away from the pitcher's plate" plate, I am referring to direction, not contact with. ;-)

MD Longhorn Wed Apr 03, 2013 02:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 888924)
Nothing says her foot has to start on the plate.

Rita

Huh?

THIS does:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 888924)
Pitcher would start with both feet on the plate


CecilOne Wed Apr 03, 2013 05:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 888954)
Huh?

THIS does:

NFHS in the OP.

Yes, Rita, bad assumption on my part; so instead, a "step back" is moving the foot farther from home plate.

CecilOne Wed Apr 03, 2013 05:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C (Post 888924)
Nothing says her foot has to start on the plate.

Rita

Yes, bad assumption on my part; so instead, a "step back" is moving the foot farther from home plate.

Rita C Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 888954)
Huh?

THIS does:

Cecil and I were on a different plane and understood each other.

Rita


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