Detachable base ruling and over thrown ball
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R1 on first, B2 hits a base hit, R1 advances to second base, slides, and takes the detachable base with him, which places the base about 4 feet from where it should be. Runner is called safe on the bang bang play. The ball drops out of F4's glove, but I called time. My PU brings me to a conference and said not to call time in the chance that the runner wished to advance to third. Here's my logic, as the base was not in the correct spot, R2 would have either tried to step on the anchor (safety hazard) or went to the location of the misplaced bag. What would you all do in that situation? I am trying to learn the correct call, as I am still a rookie. Also, no one on ,B2 hits a blooper to the right infield, F4 throws to F3, who misses and the ball goes into the dug out. Time is called, PU awards the runner third. He was on his way to first and that was it. I thought that in ASA, if a ball is thrown into a dead ball area, on an errant throw, only the base the runner was on the way to, plus one was awarded? What's the call? Thanks everyone |
If you have sloppy lose bags, cover in the ground rules that if one gets dislodged- just run where it used to be.
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Brings back memories of working in the country for a men's fast pitch league and a couple of times having bases that were potato sacks filled with straw.
"Out of play is from the bat bag behind home plate to the big pine tree to the left of 3rd base, etc." Fun times. |
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If the BR has not yet reached 1B then the award would be two bases: 1B and 2B. If the BR has rounded 1B (and had now become a runner) and defense throws trying to get her moving back to 1B the award is still two bases. Since this runner was past 1B when the throw was released the two bases awarded are 2B and 3B. Nobody will say a word about the first example but many people will squeal in the second example.. you will hear "one base on an overthrow blue!" which is of course one of the famous softball myths. |
Thanks for the clarification everyone. I'll agree, I also thought it was one base on the overthrow. Goodness... I suppose umping is a job where you learn every day!
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This misconception persists because most of the time it looks like to the casual bystander that one base is what we are awarding. They are incorrectly assuming that the batter-runner already had the first base and indeed she usually does by the time the ball goes out of play. But that first base is part of the two bases being awarded.
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