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UmpireErnie Tue May 22, 2012 04:58am
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Originally Posted by RKBUmp (Post 842771)
BTW.. Thank you for doing the legwork to post video for the play in question!! Way cool!! Good call, blue!! :)

IRISHMAFIA Tue May 22, 2012 06:41am
The difference with NCAA is that the rule only requests that the second fielder have a play. ASA, NFHS, ISF and probably a few others require the umpire judge the fielder could have put out a runner.

After checking the clip by frame, F4 who was moving away from the IF may have stopped the ball from going to the OF, but don't believe there was any possibility she would have had a play on any runner. Remember, a play is the attempt by the defense to retire a BR/R, not just fielding the ball.

SRW Tue May 22, 2012 11:02pm
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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 842813)
The opportunity certainly would have been more "reasonable" if the runner didn't interfere.

What I didn't care for was how quickly the 1BU killed the play though. We obviously need to kill the play and not have it continue too long as that could lead to confusion, but wouldn't be a good idea to look at the other potential defender? Perhaps he saw her in his peripheral, but would it kill to turn your head to actually look where she was?
Um.
I agree with you.

:eek:

Andy Mon May 28, 2012 07:12pm
UIC for this regional agrees that the interference call was correct due to F4 potentially having a play on the batted ball after it passed F3.

As to the question of U1 seeing F4 and using that as the basis of his ruling...we don't know

shagpal Mon May 28, 2012 07:38pm
"blue - we will never know if my fielder had the out because you let that runner interfere with my fielders opportunity to have a play on the ball. (wait for your response). well, you better check your tivo when you get home because everyone else will be replaying this one. you better go back to asa 10u to guess your outs."

then the coach will walk away.

now, what is your difference between a "play" and an out?

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 842851)
The difference with NCAA is that the rule only requests that the second fielder have a play. ASA, NFHS, ISF and probably a few others require the umpire judge the fielder could have put out a runner.

After checking the clip by frame, F4 who was moving away from the IF may have stopped the ball from going to the OF, but don't believe there was any possibility she would have had a play on any runner. Remember, a play is the attempt by the defense to retire a BR/R, not just fielding the ball.

IRISHMAFIA Mon May 28, 2012 08:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy (Post 843744)
UIC for this regional agrees that the interference call was correct due to F4 potentially having a play on the batted ball after it passed F3.

As to the question of U1 seeing F4 and using that as the basis of his ruling...we don't know
And there is nothing wrong with that. We could sit back and watch reruns all day long, but the guy on the field doesn't have that type of advantage and must make an immediate decision.

tcannizzo Mon May 28, 2012 08:20pm
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Originally Posted by shagpal (Post 843746)
"blue - we will never know if my fielder had the out because you let that runner interfere with my fielders opportunity to have a play on the ball. (wait for your response).
Ooooh, Ooooh, I know this one.....


Quote:
Originally Posted by shagpal (Post 843746)
well, you better check your tivo when you get home because everyone else will be replaying this one. you better go back to asa 10u to guess your outs."

then the coach will walk away.
Would that be to his TIVO in his Winnebago?

IRISHMAFIA Mon May 28, 2012 08:29pm
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Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 843748)
Would that be to his TIVO in his Winnebago?
You mean he doesn't have a TIVO-equipped indicator for instant review?

tcannizzo Mon May 28, 2012 09:06pm
Depends on his location.
Don't think he is from around here.


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