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MD Longhorn Tue May 22, 2012 08:19am
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Originally Posted by KJUmp (Post 842817)
Ahhhhh....now I see your point.
Only took me four hours to understand what you were saying!!!
:)

HugoTafurst Tue May 22, 2012 08:43am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 842852)
For anyone who needs it, go HERE for an NCAA 2012-2013 Softball Rule Book.

Though you go through the steps of "purchasing" it, the download is free and only takes a minute or two.

I've had one sitting on my laptop for the past few years and it is a great and efficient resource.
Thanks - I didn't know I could do that.
Searching a pdf if sooo much easier than flipping through the book and having it on my laptop is soooooo much easier than going to the Hub each time.

You've made me so very happy.
:)

IRISHMAFIA Tue May 22, 2012 11:55am
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Originally Posted by topper (Post 842854)
There were some pretty badly kicked calls this weekend that were potential game changers. The one or possibly two in the 8th inning of the Michigan v. Louisville winners game on Saturday being probably the most egregious. And that's just in the 12 games that were nationally televised.
The one at 3B really looked bad on TV. I think if he got one more step down before the call, he might have gotten a better look.

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TV can be very revealing. I noticed ESPN isn't using K Zone this year.
Did they use it for the entire tournament or just the finals? I think while it is nice and helpful, at some point it can become annoying to the viewer if overused, which I think it is when available.

RKBUmp Tue May 22, 2012 12:12pm
As I recall they only used the K zone at the finals. From my understanding of how it works its a petty expensive system and requires numerous camers set up at specific angles in order to track the pitch, not to mention the crews to operate it. Just to many fields going on in to many locations to have it at all the regionals.

Does ASA provide their rule books in anything other than hard copy? Sure is nice to be able to search the book on the computer.

topper Tue May 22, 2012 01:52pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 842893)
The one at 3B really looked bad on TV. I think if he got one more step down before the call, he might have gotten a better look..
He was way late and short. Not sure why either. Not much else to worry about except his responsibility at 3B.

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 842893)
Did they use it for the entire tournament or just the finals? I think while it is nice and helpful, at some point it can become annoying to the viewer if overused, which I think it is when available.
You and RKB are right - it was just the WCWS. Don't see ESPN hyping it this year.

CecilOne Tue May 22, 2012 04:16pm
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Originally Posted by KJUmp (Post 842662)
Yes.....it was a force out.
You and your daughter are correct....good catch!
Aren't 12 year olds wonderful? :)

Andy Mon May 28, 2012 07:16pm
I had the opportunity to speak with the UIC for this regional.

The explanation for the non-interference call is that is was a judgement call be the umpire. Period.

The explanation for why the run was allowed to score - after the collision, umpire states he saw the runner touch second base, lost contact with the base, and was tagged out. The force was not in effect when the runner was tagged.

Yes, this was part of a conversation between innings that we did not see on TV.....

KJUmp Mon May 28, 2012 09:43pm
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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 843745)

- after the collision, umpire states he saw the runner touch second base, lost contact with the base,
Throughout this thread, my only criticism had been of the crew allowing the run to score. I've supported everything that I saw U1 do on the play, including the non INF call as it is his judgement.

But after reading that statement, all I can say is WTF?
I can't believe how he could say that to his crew or the UIC. His eyes (actually his head) never seemed to move away from the runner and the bag, nor did it appear that he, at any point, got screened by any of the players. I was impressed that he stayed with the play, despite all the chaos, and was right there for the out call on the tag. So his statement really has me scratching my head.

Question Andy, any mention by the UIC of video of the play being reviewed with the crew after the game?


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