GT v FSU

[tcannizzo]

R1 on 1B.
Ground ball to F4.
U3 signals Out on Tag.
OC appeals.
Crew gets together and call is reversed.
R1 safe on 2B.

I can see if U3 ruled Safe and missed the tag, but un-tag?

[ronald]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

R1 on 1B.
Ground ball to F4.
U3 signals Out on Tag.
OC appeals.
Crew gets together and call is reversed.
R1 safe on 2B.the

I can see if U3 ruled Safe and missed the tag, but un-tag?

I did not see the play but I am thinking if U1 was watching the play, he or she might have had a better angle. I am thinking the U3 was straightlined or had a bad angle. Of course U3 must have had doubts as if I was 100% sure I would have a hard time getting together for a conference. Having said that, my perception, from a limited sample, is that in college tha e umpires get together any time a coach disagrees with a call and comes out.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by ronald

I did not see the play but I am thinking if U1 was watching the play, he or she might have had a better angle. I am thinking the U3 was straightlined or had a bad angle. Of course U3 must have had doubts as if I was 100% sure I would have a hard time getting together for a conference. Having said that, my perception, from a limited sample, is that in college tha e umpires get together any time a coach disagrees with a call and comes out.

No question, watching the game, U3 was straight lined, and U1 had a better view.

I believe what was meant by the post is that U3 shouldn't be guessing the out not actually seen; default to the "safe", and have THAT call potentially appealed and overturned.

So far as NCAA manual is concerned, the umpires should only get together when the calling umpire agrees that the other umpire may have additional information to add. In general, assuming a smaller and higher level of training than any other group, that should actually happen less. But, we don't actually work for the NCAA until postseason; this is a conference coordinator issue when umpires feel more required than the manual suggests.

That said; my belief is this call should have been "safe, no tag" to begin with. Good reversal by the crew, but never should have been necessary.

[ronald]

thanks Steve.


Are you working the post season?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by ronald

thanks Steve.

Are you working the post season?

Not this year.

At least primarily my fault this time; I neglected to take the test on time. So much going on, I simply forgot.

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Not this year.

At least primarily my fault this time; I neglected to take the test on time. So much going on, I simply forgot.

another excellent post...other than drinking bad beer, you usually nail it..

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

No question, watching the game, U3 was straight lined, and U1 had a better view.

I believe what was meant by the post is that U3 shouldn't be guessing the out not actually seen; default to the "safe", and have THAT call potentially appealed and overturned.

So far as NCAA manual is concerned, the umpires should only get together when the calling umpire agrees that the other umpire may have additional information to add. In general, assuming a smaller and higher level of training than any other group, that should actually happen less. But, we don't actually work for the NCAA until postseason; this is a conference coordinator issue when umpires feel more required than the manual suggests.

That said; my belief is this call should have been "safe, no tag" to begin with. Good reversal by the crew, but never should have been necessary.

Excellent post Steve, and in the bolded sentence you have hit the nail square on the head.