Incorrect infield fly rule called
Runners on 1st and 3rd. Batter hits an infield fly. Umpire calls "INFIELD FLY, BATTER IS OUT." Infielder drops the flyball. Complete confusion going on because nobody knows what's a force out and what's a tag out. How does the umpire reconcile the incorrect call?
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In short, there is no "one size fits all" correct answer. You could have any combination of possiblities depending on how the players reacted. |
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Been there....done that.....this year. :rolleyes: I was PU, called INF, F4 dropped....then my partner pointed out that runners were on 2/3 - OOPS. We just put the BR on 1st, and even the coaches had a good laugh about it. It WAS first game back after Easter/Spring Break so.....:p
My mechanic was good though... |
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How it ended up: runner on 3rd is awarded home. Runner on 1st is out at 2nd, BR is awarded 1st. The main argument was the runner on 3rd. Had the IFF not been called, the runner probably would not have broke for home although he's a fast and aggressive runner. |
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;) :p :D |
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Should have been, "Play is blown." ;) |
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We often hold players and coaches accountable for knowing the situation; how many outs there are, even if told incorrectly by an umpire, when the D3K rule applies (or doesn't), what the count actually is (catcher not to throw to someone other than pitcher), etc. If the batter and offensive coaches don't know the IFF cannot apply BY RULE, I hold them equally accountable. No jeopardy, just poor baserunning and coaching. |
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Could the umpire have ruled an intentional dropped ball? I am in agreement that the defense has to understand the game situation and should have finished the play; the offense should have reacted accordingly to the game situation as well. If the umpire caused a player to be put in jeopardy, such as the batter runner not running because she was called out, then the umpire can fix the situation at the end of the play. An umpire would only fix it if they placed the batter runner, runner or defensive team member in jeopardy. How did this turn out? |
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8.2-30 with a runner on 3b and no outs, the batter hits a high fly in the infield above f4's head. the bsase umpire erroneously calls infield fly,batter is out. f4 subsequently drops the ball. the runner from 3b scores and the batter (a) ends up at 2nd base, or (b) goes to the dugout when he heard the base umpire call him out. ruling; Th e run scores. in (a)leave the bater at 2b on the correctable error; however, in (b), the plate umpire should rectify the situation by placing the batter on 1b. (8-2i: 8-2d: 10-6c) Thiss is from a case book I bought in 2003 |
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8.2-30 with a runner on 3b and no outs, the batter hits a high fly in the infield above f4's head. the bsase umpire erroneously calls infield fly,batter is out. f4 subsequently drops the ball. the runner from 3b scores and the batter (a) ends up at 2nd base, or (b) goes to the dugout when he heard the base umpire call him out. ruling; Th e run scores. in (a)leave the bater at 2b on the correctable error; however, in (b), the plate umpire should rectify the situation by placing the batter on 1b. (8-2i: 8-2d: 10-6c) Thiss is from a case book I bought in 2003 |
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Worked men's wreck league game last night w/ a junior partner on the plate. One out, runners on 1st & 2nd. We did flash IF signal to each other.
Batter hit a looping ball over shortstop, who turned toward the outfield to track it down. Partner called IF very quickly and when the ball landed well over the shortstop's head into the outfield, the offense was pretty steamed. Lots of outcry and you gotta be kiddings. I thought maybe the coach would come out to talk to PU and perhaps we'd end up getting together to talk about it. As I'm thinking about what I'd do, I thought putting the batter on 1st and advancing each runner 1 base would be the appropriate correction. But the coach never came out and the game continued from there. Partner and I talked a couple of innings after that, but I didn't bring up Rule 10. Given how it played out, I thought I'd let this one sit in his craw a while. He knew he messed it up, so I left it at that. The team that the call went against mounted a rally in the top of the 7th and ultimately came up 1 run short. Hindsight being 20-20, they may have had a big inning killed in that earlier inning. |
Thanks for this discussion. It's helpful to illustrate how we as umpires can take things into consideration after making a correctable mistake.
Scott |
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