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Umpteenth Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:05am

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Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 834258)
...Realisticly thinking that a K is always over the dish is hard to fathom.

What rule set (or sets) do you call? I'm really curious, because I've never heard of a strike zone that moved back and forth with the batter.

ASA, Rule 1 Strike Zone: That space over any part of home plate, when a batter assumes a natural batting stance adjacent to home plate, between the batter's:
A. (fast Pitch) Arm pits and the top of the knees.
B. (Slow Pitch) Back shoulder and the front knee.
...

All an umpire has to do is read the rule book and apply the rules as written using one's own judgement. In the OP, the batter is standing deep in the box. This does not change the Strike Zone as defined in the rules. The horizontal piece of the strike zone is still the space over any part of home plate. The vertical piece of the strike zone is still determined by the batter's arm pits and the top of the knee when the batter is standing next to home plate (fast pitch, as stated in OP).

From the OP, if a pitch crosses the plate within the parameters defined by the rule when the batter is deep in the BB, but then crosses the space behind the plate and in front of the batter below the batter's knee, I have a strike.

DeputyUICHousto Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:28pm

Wow...
 
After 24 years of umpiring I was always under the impression that some part of the ball had to pass over some part of the strike zone in order to be a strike. I've never really been concerned with the batter's location within the batter's box. It really makes no difference.

EsqUmp Wed Mar 28, 2012 06:43am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 834483)
I have never understood that, nor will I ever. I have a few ideas, though.......

That is because you mischaracterize offering an independent thought that wasn't drilled in our heads by one or two groups that haven't adapted as the game has changed over the decades as "stirring things up." God forbid you actually consider them rather than just disagreeing and bashing them on a forum.

MD Longhorn Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:16am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 834617)
That is because you mischaracterize offering an independent thought that wasn't drilled in our heads by one or two groups that haven't adapted as the game has changed over the decades as "stirring things up." God forbid you actually consider them rather than just disagreeing and bashing them on a forum.

What "one or two groups that haven't adapted" are you referring to?

TexasUmp Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:26am

I am wondering what additional rules are being ignored or altered by these umps under the guise of "I'm not a clone". Do you write them down so you dont forget? Do you highlight them in the rule book so you don't forget and actually apply the rule as written? Amazing hoe some umps think they can alter the rules to fit what they think they sould be!

Doug

Welpe Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:52am

I just want to know what an "xtream" [sic] is. Oh and I want to know what love is.

Dakota Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:42pm

Nice to know, returning to the board after my second annual long winter sabbatical, that I haven't missed anything... :rolleyes:

NCASAUmp Wed Mar 28, 2012 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 834669)
Nice to know, returning to the board after my second annual long winter sabbatical, that I haven't missed anything... :rolleyes:

Same here. That's why I'm not here as much anymore.

CecilOne Wed Mar 28, 2012 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 834669)
Nice to know, returning to the board after my second annual long winter sabbatical, that I haven't missed anything... :rolleyes:

Tom,
I think you will like NC Dave's new forum.

DaveASA/FED Wed Mar 28, 2012 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 834617)
God forbid you actually consider them rather than just disagreeing and bashing them on a forum.

I swore I wasn't going to get into this conversation (or the 10-15 other arguements I have seen) but it's just ironic to me that you would acuse someone of "just disagreeing and bashing them on a forum." Seems to me that is EXACTLY what you have been doing since you joined this forum, disagreeing and bashing organizations and any rule / mechanic / interp. they have provided that you don't "like" for whatever reason.

Skahtboi Wed Mar 28, 2012 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 834659)
Oh and I want to know what love is.

Just as long as you don't want me to show you! :eek:

NCASAUmp Wed Mar 28, 2012 03:36pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 834680)
Just as long as you don't want me to show you! :eek:

What happens in Vegas... stays on YouTube.

JEL Wed Mar 28, 2012 04:21pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 834637)
What "one or two groups that haven't adapted" are you referring to?

Or maybe which (recognizable) groups HAVE adapted! All I know of leave the zone over the plate!

Skahtboi Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:32am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 834637)
What "one or two groups that haven't adapted" are you referring to?

I notice that this question, of several days ago, still goes unanswered! :rolleyes:


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