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chris s Fri May 02, 2003 06:24pm

I was talking with my daughters manager last game. His older one plays 13-16's and he was telling me about the ump checking there bats before the game. He mentions ump by name, olBonner. This guy is laughs, 72 years old and still works football/asa/ and varsity baseball. I've worked both baseball and football with him, some old-fasioned mechanics! But he's cool. Any way, olBonner tossed every bat out that did not have the "asa-2000" seal on it??? All the bats tossed were league supplied! They're not old, still good, so the question is.....Are the 1999 model bats now a dinosaur?? Not legal for asa??

IRISHMAFIA Fri May 02, 2003 06:46pm

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Originally posted by chris s
I was talking with my daughters manager last game. His older one plays 13-16's and he was telling me about the ump checking there bats before the game. He mentions ump by name, olBonner. This guy is laughs, 72 years old and still works football/asa/ and varsity baseball. I've worked both baseball and football with him, some old-fasioned mechanics! But he's cool. Any way, olBonner tossed every bat out that did not have the "asa-2000" seal on it??? All the bats tossed were league supplied! They're not old, still good, so the question is.....Are the 1999 model bats now a dinosaur?? Not legal for asa??

If it was a HS game under NFHS rules, Ol' Bonner is correct. If it is ASA, Ol' Bonner needs to move on to an administrative position with his association.

http://www.asasoftball.com/about/cer..._equipment.asp

Go to this link to determine if any of the bats were legal.

BTW, there is no such thing as girls or FP bat rules.


chris s Fri May 02, 2003 07:47pm



If it was a HS game under NFHS rules, Ol' Bonner is correct. If it is ASA, Ol' Bonner needs to move on to an administrative position with his association.
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Ok, now I know where he got this from!
http://www.asasoftball.com/about/cer..._equipment.asp

Go to this link to determine if any of the bats were legal.
Thanks Mike, I will.....
BTW, there is no such thing as girls or FP bat rules.
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Looking through a catalog my buddy at work got, Sp and FP bats appear to be at least marketed differenly, hey if I wanna play in a men's FP league with a "Lisa Fernandez" bat, I know where to get one...LOL
Or is the mens and womens FP different???

Dakota Fri May 02, 2003 08:14pm

The bat manufacturers market different models to the slow pitch player and the fast pitch player, but the rules are the same. You could legally use a "slow pitch" bat in a fast pitch game.

Tap Fri May 02, 2003 08:57pm

bats
 
My understanding is that, to be legal, bats must (1) have ASA 2000 stamp, (2) be on ASA approved list, or, (3) if made before 1995, would conform to current bat performance standards (umpire’s discretion).

All bats on ASA web site requiring recertification are illegal unless they bear ASA’s new recertification stamp (in shape of baseball field -- different from ASA 2000 stamp). The following three bats are banned and not capable of recertification: (1) Miken Ultra (gray color) Maxload, (2) Miken Ultra (gray color) Balanced, and (3) Steele’s XXX. [Miken Ultra II is legal and not on banned list, for now anyway].

The most common mistake is for people to confuse the ASA 2000 certification with the new recertification stamp. All banned bats have the former, as it was put on the bat before it was banned. Many umpires get this wrong -- I've seen it happen.

IRISHMAFIA Sat May 03, 2003 07:56am

Re: bats
 
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Originally posted by Tap
My understanding is that, to be legal, bats must (1) have ASA 2000 stamp, (2) be on ASA approved list, or, (3) if made before 1995, would conform to current bat performance standards (umpire’s discretion).

All bats on ASA web site requiring recertification are illegal unless they bear ASA’s new recertification stamp (in shape of baseball field -- different from ASA 2000 stamp). The following three bats are banned and not capable of recertification: (1) Miken Ultra (gray color) Maxload, (2) Miken Ultra (gray color) Balanced, and (3) Steele’s XXX. [Miken Ultra II is legal and not on banned list, for now anyway].

The most common mistake is for people to confuse the ASA 2000 certification with the new recertification stamp. All banned bats have the former, as it was put on the bat before it was banned. Many umpires get this wrong -- I've seen it happen.

#3 above has been changed to "manufactured prior to 2000". This change scares me as this allows an umpire to pass judgment on a bat containing titanium. Remember, it is the umpire's judgment on whether it would have passed the present testing and some of the younger officials may not be totally aware of the titanium bats.


CecilOne Sun May 04, 2003 12:18pm

The web site you referenced still says 1995.

IRISHMAFIA Sun May 04, 2003 07:15pm

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Originally posted by CecilOne
The web site you referenced still says 1995.
Yes, it does. But I cannot carry my computer in my ball bag:)

It was a rule change this year, and I still don't like it.



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